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YogaLady
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I'm in day 2 of doxycycline after 2 weeks of clueless suffering from pain all over. I'm ok in day, but when I lay down to sleep, pain in lower back is awful. Worst last night after 1 doxycycline. Any tips? I read that hot baths with epsom salt and 1-2 quarts of hydrogen peroxide will help get toxins off skin. But hydrogen per. on skin seems like a bad idea. Anyone tries it or other ermedy?

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HOT baths are to be avoided. Lyme patients generally do very poorly with heat. WARM baths are good, though. And Epson Salts are nice. I don't "do" the hydrogen peroxide but some do. I think epson salts are enough, at least for a start.

Just don't get too hot or overly warm for too long.

For more replies, copy and paste your question and repost over in the Medical forum:

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Hi yoga lady. when i first started doxy i didnt know anything about lyme so i bought a new mattress not knowing what herxing was. things got worse.dizzy shooting stabbing pain..for 2 weeks then the fog in my head lifted. dont worry if those things happen to you too, unfortunatly its part of it. ibuprofin is the only rellief as it relaxes the muscles unless you want something stronger which your dr. can recommend. good luck michele

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YogaLady, it's important to be aware, though, that ibuprofen can be hard on the kidneys. And Acetaminophen is very hard on the liver.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Ibuprofen, kidneys - 406 abstracts

Ibuprofen, kidney+damage - 6 abstracts

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http://www.nytimes.com/1990/04/16/us/kidney-peril-found-in-the-pain-reliever-ibuprofen.html

Kidney Peril Found in the Pain Reliever Ibuprofen

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Liver support is helpful to relieve pain, too. Antioxidants, as well. More detail here about methods that are safer:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/3/24039

Topic: Looking for long term pain management

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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89790

Topic: NATURAL SLEEP - Links to articles & supplements

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And, transfer your request over to the MEDICAL FORUM for more replies.
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My doctor told me my strain goes into dormancy in the heat. This makes a lot of sense to me since I feel the most pain in colder temperatures or, in the summer going from heat to air conditioning.

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I'm not sure if strain makes a difference in how too much heat can make us feel worse, though. Many spirochetes ball up into cysts from the heat. That's not really desirable but it beats them all having a blast at our expense, perhaps. We'll just have to deal with a tougher form later, though.

However, how the heat can make lyme patients feel worse is not so much about the spirochetes although they can emit more toxins by being irritated enough to go into cyst form . . . but . . .

the body of a lyme patient often loses its ability to modulate body functions in heat. So, all sort of things internally can make us feel much worse - even relapsing.

Heat intolerance and failure of internal regulation systems are discussed at both links below:

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hot baths are the only thing that help my pain... but i take a cold shower afterwards [Razz] i am always running water at all hours of the day and night. my neighbors must hate me!
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Magnesium Malate has helped me with night leg pains. I take it at bedtime.
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quote:
Originally posted by YogaLady:
I'm in day 2 of doxycycline after 2 weeks of clueless suffering from pain all over. I'm ok in day, but when I lay down to sleep, pain in lower back is awful. Worst last night after 1 doxycycline. Any tips?

Ideas for the bed:
- Do you have a knee pillow?
You can buy special ones at a bedding store or from a chiropractor's office. Can also use the cheap little pillows you may have gotten from a hosp stint.
A pillow under my knees when on my back or btwn my knees if on my side is a must for my comfort.

- Have you considered incline bed therapy?
I think that's the tech term for raising the head end of your bed. Start gradually, then raise again 2 wks later. I put 2" lifts (wood) under head-end feet and 1" lifts under center feet. Loved it! Then upped it. Really love it!

Before I put my bed on an incline, Lyme disease & co's (probably Bartonellosis, esp) symptoms kept me sleeping upright in the corner of my couch very often.

Best wishes,
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