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peacemama
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My older son has had the flu for a week. Nice, high temps. And now, he is recovered (doc put him on a zpack, which we took. 2 more days).

My younger son had a little sore throat and a headache last night and now has a fever of 99.7. He never fevers.

It scares me that is immune system doesn't work. I was 8 years sicker when I had him, so his lyme, bart, babs + has really done a number on his immune system.

Any stories to share about non-fevering children? I prefer the fevers. At least it shows something is working.

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joalo
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I'm at a loss on this too, for myself and my children. Especially me and my 7 yr old. It is extremely rare that either of us ever gets a fever. 99 being about as much as we can muster.

My son's body temp often is in the 95 range, mine 96. I don't know if there is anything I can do to make my body muster up a fever. I try hot baths but thats about it.

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For the past 3 years my temp was always in the 95's also.

For some reason the past month or so it's been in the 98's. Does that mean when we get a normal temp we are running a fever???

I hate Lyme disease,,,good luck with your son!

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I asked my LLMD about low temps and Lyme, as we keep daily records of our morning temps. Her reply was that as your immune system starts to recover as you go through treatment and become more normal, your temperatures tend to return to the normal range ie. in the 98s. So temps returning to 98s consistently, I would interpret as being a good sign.
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Hey Ticksickfamily, I total agree with that: The problem I have with it is, one of my main symptoms has been feeling (very cold)-(Eclectic shock)-(shaking-pins & needles) in my whole body for three years.

I really throught if I could get my temp up I would start feeling better----not true, still feel the same. I really don't understand it!

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Hi peacemama

I found this online, ways to rise your body temp.

Often, the problem lies in all three areas; but if you get the body to work right, mood often improves and appetite often sharpens to trigger desires for the specific nutrients that one needs. (At least if one stays away from non-nutritional flavorings, fake foods, and sweeteners; all of which can interfere with the wisdom of the body and upset its sense of inner balance.) The mind may drag the body a short distance; but it is the body which carries the mind for a lifetime. Fix the body, and the mind follows.

Here are some things others have tried. YOu may wish to consider them.

* Some people can learn to turn on the inner warmth via meditation and/or visualization, and thus break the cycle; it is a temporary respite which, when practiced, can lead to improvement for some.
* Exercise will generate considerable internal heat. For some, exercising three or more times a week will break the cold cycle; but not for all.
* Nutrition helps many, Molybdenum, Choline, Alpha Lipoic Acid and Coenzyme Q 10 have help some; but not all.
* Molybdenum has been particularly useful for those who feel cold all the time. (But many feel hot when they are cold.)
* Supplemental Iodine has cured some forms of low body temperature. But again, not all.
* Low copper levels or broken copper enzyme paths, which can cause high copper levels, may be associated with some forms of low body temperature. The low levels are easier to remedy than the high.
* Adequate, sometimes prolonged, sleep helps some; but again, not all. It is important that body temperature not drop too far during the night, or the benefits of sleep are greatly diminished.
* Exposure to bright lights in the morning helps "wake the mind" and then the body for some; but not all. Those whom it helps are often said to have "Seasonal Adjustive Disorder", "SAD".
* Avoidance of bright lights, and computer displays with light backgrounds in the evening helps the mind get ready for night. Bright light delays the melatonin cycles of sleep.
* A very hot bath upon rising in the morning, one that prompts the body to sweat a bit, has helped some. As have warm showers before bed.
* There are cyclical thyroid supplementation programs available that break the mind-body part of the cycle for many people. When this works, the disorder is often called Wilson's Syndrome. Some are cured in weeks or months; others can take many cycles before the body "catches on". Some are able to use other techniques besides hormones to cycle their body temperature till the body learns to run better.
* Some, those with some kinds of thyroid disorders, may need continuous thyroid supplementation. Others may do well with potassium iodide supplements (KKSI). But again, not all.
* Some of this may be related to porphyria, a rare blood disorder, which can cause anemia, and thus deprive the body of enough oxygen for normal robust operation. There are many other causes of anemia, some more common than porphyria.
* Microfilliary worms and parasites are cited by some as causing low body temperature. Some of these people find that raising body temperature via other means kills the worms and lets the body maintain a higher, more normal temperature.
* Old sayings speak of adding root vegetables like rutabagas and carrots to the diet.
* Other sayings speak of adding legumes such as string beans to the diet.
* Folk lore from other parts of the world mentions adding spices like ginger root and red hot peppers to the diet. Hot peppers will make this author warmer, and the memory was used in biofeedback training using a simple digital thermometer. More below.

There are many problems which will cause chronic low body temperature, from post traumatic stress syndrome to warts, from Candida Albecans to Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. What will help you, depends upon the cause and the state of your body. In the long run, the mind tends to follow the body. Heal and nurture the body properly, and the mind will begin to sparkle again.

Steve

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