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Lymetoo
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http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/msg-proven-highly-toxic-1-dose-causes-headache-healthy-subjects

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Thanks for that link. So many are just not aware that MSG is also in "natural flavors" in so many products . . . "autolyzed yeast extract" (it's not JUST yeast) often in tuna & soups, etc.

MSG goes by other names, many other names. Dozens of other names.

More detail:

www.amazon.com/Excitotoxins-Taste-Russell-L-Blaylock/dp/0929173252

EXCITOTOXINS: The Taste That Kills [$12. at Amazon]

- by Russell L. Blaylock, M.D. (neurosurgeon)

You can look inside the book and read over 80 reader review at the link above.

Author's website:

http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/


"Natural flavors" are even added to some herb teas, almond milk, lip balm, etc.

Learn more about "natural flavors" - the unnatural processing they go through - and just some of the possible links to ill effects are discussed here:


http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7389748n&tag=cbsnewsMainColumnArea.9

60 Minutes - November 27, 2011

TWEAKING TASTES & CREATING CRAVINGS

View Video - 14 minutes
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GLUTAMATE / GLUTAMIC ACID & the BRAIN

In addition to Blaylock's book link above and the "60 Minutes" video that explain how "natural flavors" CAN damage the brain,

This is why added glutamate, even a touch (outside of from a normal food source) can trigger a cascade, can be so bad for those with neurological illness (such as lyme):

Be certain that any supplement (powder or pill) does not contain ANY of these as an additional ingredient: Aspartate; Glutamine (Glutamic Acid); and Phenylalanine

Caution with each of these 3 excitatory amino acids.

Each of these can cause far too much nervous system and adrenal system stimulation for many who deal with lyme.
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This information is especially for those with any degree of:

toxicity, exhaustion, anxiety, irritability, agitation, panic attacks, tremors, startles, or seizures:

it is best to avoid these three particular amino acids (other than in normal doses from food or maybe in a balanced formula with other amino acids & other nutrients, but not above the average daily dose.

Even at that, that, some people need to avoid excess foods that contain one or both of those as they can be too stimulating for the brain when it's already overstimulated from neuro-toxicity issues.

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http://www.itmonline.org/arts/glutamine.htm

AMINO ACID SUPPLEMENTS I: GLUTAMINE

with Reference to the Related Compound Glutamate
by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D.

[Just beyond half-way down, see the section:]

Excerpts:

. . . GLUTAMATE IN NEUROLOGICAL DISEASES . . .

. . . In some neurological diseases, it is found that glutamate levels in the central nervous system become unusually high at sites of pathology.

This can occur, for example, if the rate of degradation of glutamate is slowed by an impairment of the enzymes that are involved.

Also, glutamate is excreted by immune cells that take part in inflammatory processes; the result is high local concentrations at the neurons in progressive neurological diseases such as MS and ALS. . . .

. . . The excess glutamate at the neuron acts as a poison; at high enough levels, the nerves exposed to glutamate can be completely and permanently damaged, so that they are no longer capable of transmitting signals.

Thus, while glutamate is a major component of the body, and an essential part of the nervous system, high levels localized in the nerve cells can be quite toxic . . . .

. . . Laboratory research has revealed that in the progressive, debilitating disease ALS, one of the many processes involved in disease progression appears to be damage of nerve cells by accumulation of glutamate.

In relation to multiple sclerosis, changes in control of glutamate homeostasis in the central nervous system might contribute to demyelination of the white matter of the brain (19).

[poster's interjection: lyme also causes demyelination, what that is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demyelinating_disease ] - article continues:

Based on preliminary animal studies, it has been suggested that glutamate dumped by immune cells can exacerbate the nerve damage (20). . . .

. . . The role of glutamate in neurological disorders has raised the question as to whether persons with such neurological diseases might have to be careful

not to get high levels of either glutamine or glutamate via their diet and/or by taking glutamine supplements. . . .

. . . full article at link above.

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http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/epilepsy.htm

EPILEPSY AND SEIZURES - by Lawrence Wilson, MD

Excerpt:

[section] DIETARY ASPECTS OF EPILEPSY

Food reactions can trigger epileptic seizures. The main culprits are the following foods that are rich in glutamate and aspartate, two very excitatory amino acids:

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. . . and the entire article as it may not seem like it by the title as not all lyme patients experience seizures.

However, the content relates very much so to the neuro-excitatory problems seen so very often in lyme disease & heavy metal toxicity.
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Marnie has also posted some detail about how excess glutamate can be neurotoxic. And, for many of us, "excess" can come from a cup of tea that has "natural flavors" added.
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Thanks .. I wanted it on your links!

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Thanks. Just added it over here, too:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=029690;p=0

Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors (that are not likely natural at all)

And . . . Gluten, Dairy, GMO's . . . oh, my!
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That's why Lay's chips' slogan was "you can't eat just one".

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lax mom,

Yep, it lights up the addictive center of the brain. MSG seems to be a "gateway" and once that addictive center's fire is stoked, we just want more and more.

The "60 Minutes" video is amazing and the reporter really dropped the ball by not taking it further with OTHER experts about what that brain scan on MSG really meant.


A bunch of Uncle Ben's Mexican FLAVORED INFUSED Rice was just recalled for making a lot of school kids ill in Houston.

The additives to that, no doubt are involved but all anyone is pointing to, while scratching their heads, is maybe it is the niacin added (because they took out all the vitamins that are there naturally). It does not seem to occur to anyone in charge to consider the additives!

GLUTEN is also added to a lot of "Mexican" and "Spanish" rices out there (and in other "flavors" too). I found that out the hard way at a Burrito restaurant, being so careful, I thought, to avoid gluten.

Schools can't cook brown rice on site and then add their own onions and spices? It has to be a "product" infused with artificial flavors?

One business article insists that "This rice saves on ingredients and labor, enhancing profitability." Apparently, that is what it's all about.
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Thanks you guys for posting this. Just glanced through the posts but will come back to read...so important for health.
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Keebler .. Someone told me that nearly all rice cooked in restaurants contains gluten because it is either cooked with flavorings or it is cooked in broth that is not gluten free.

Even the Outback Restaurant does not list any of their rice in their gluten free menu.

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"Mars Foodservices US is conducting this voluntary recall as a result of people experiencing temporary symptoms of mild flushing and rash after eating our Foodservices INFUSED® Rice Mexican Flavor product." --from http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm385310.htm?source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

Sounds like Niacin, or a sulfite reaction...I suspect Niacin, since sulfite sensitivity is not likely to make everyone who eats them react like this...but I know Niacin can...

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