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They are so gross, little tiny ones in and around the dry cat food bowls at night (scaring the cats). I am pretty sure they came in on some take out (hubby loves takeout food).

Does anyone know how to get rid of them without hiring an exterminator? I have MCS too so not sure I could handle an exterminator (toxins).

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borax powder...
baking powder and baking soda are naturals
also roach traps.

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Thanks Randibear! Maybe I should use sugar with the powders to bait them. But then maybe they would just eat the sugar.

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Darn, my baking soda and powder are expired!

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I would NOT put down sugar. Sugar can attract critters and they will send out signals far and wide for the "party" at your home.

You don't want to attract them from a wide radius but just affect those that happen by.

Expired for baking / chemical reaction is very different than expired in all aspects of their properties, though.

But I don't see how baking soda or baking powder could do anything without the boric acid in it.

BORIC ACID powder is also helpful in you don't have or can't find the brand name "Borax" - the boric acid is taken back to their nests and works there.

Can you not leave food sitting out, especially at night. Teach the cats that if they don't eat a meal time, it gets put away ?

Also one helpful habit is to never put any food specs of food, oil at all in the trash. Keep any food garbage traces (even on napkins) in the FREEZER and then into the trash at the time it's put out for pick-up.

A couple old plastic bins in the door cubby will work, they can be rinsed out and reused forever.
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Certain garden herbs may help, those with aromatic oils, especially. Rosemary is one that comes to mind but a good search will get into specifics.

Marigolds, too, I think I recall.

Better to repel them, I think, than attract or entice them.
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I wonder if the orange peel bug stuff would work. It works really good on carpenter ants and other things. They smell it and turn around...but i dont have much experience

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The Combat bait (the little traps) works great if you can't get the borax to work. If you put out the borax, put it where the pets cannot get to it. It's fairly safe, but still.

It's non-toxic .. at least there is no SMELL.

Ditto on leaving food out .. it's a constant source of "bait" for the roaches.

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Don't know if aspartame would work for roaches or not...... it does kill ants! They take it back to their nests and after a little while --- no more ants!
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Ha ha (Maddog)!

Will a ten year old box of mule team borax work (laundry detergent)? I haven't made it to the store yet for roach bait.

Yeah, I guess I have to cover the cat food bowls at night. That is where they are hanging out. I have a really old cat that needs to eat when she's hungry tho.

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Covering the bowls will not work. Sorry. They would need to be in a tightly sealed container and any trace of food cleaned up very well - a tray underneath by day and then wash it very well, for instance.

The kind of container that has a tight latch lock and a rubber gasket is best to keep bugs out.

It can be tough if cat's need to have any food out, though. If they can learn to eat at certain times, it would be best.

In the meantime, sprinkle the old borax powder you have around . . . corners & edges everywhere. Just a very light dusting. Circle around the cat food area.
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This may gross you out a bit, so "spoiler alert" but this is very important. Pull out the stove, the fridge, etc. and give that floor space a good cleaning, too.

A steamer mop after vacuuming is a good idea if you have something like a Bissell steamer.

IF you have an old fridge, or any fridge with a DRIP TRAY behind it or underneath, this drip tray can atrack (sp?) roaches. Ick, I know. Found this out the hard way.

Also be sure under sink is all clean and dry. Moist spots attrack them, too.

I'm sure the web has some good sites that cover all the bases. It's a multi-faceted proposition.

ANY food that is dry should also be in a gasket / hindge tight container, no opened boxes of anything in the cabinets. Friends learned that so I did not have to.
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Thanks Keebler. So can I leave the cats' water bowls out? It doesn't sound like it after reading about under the fridge! I don't know how that will work with our cats. Hmmm.

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What about onions, garlic and tomatoes? I leave them on the counter all the time. Should I put them away too?

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Your cat will let you know when she wants to eat! [Smile]

The water should be fine. They need to have constant access to water.

I'm not sure I'd want roaches crawling on my tomatoes. Not sure they would mess with the onions or garlic, but who knows?

Yes to the Mule Team borax! It may take awhile to work.. at least a week.

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onions, garlic and tomatoes?

I do not know. But you cannot put them in an air tight container at room temperature or they will mold fast.

This is where you might consult a good website on this topic or call the office of an exterminator tomorrow. Just explain you need a little advice on not attracting them.

A produce manager of a grocery -- or a university "extension" service for food issues can likely also help.

You may be able to leave the onions / garlic in a cotton towel, loose in a basket but put that basket on a larger plate and sprinkle something around the edge of the plate.

Tomatoes likely best uncovered, but the same thing, inside some kind of ring.

Honey, if left out for any time at all to warm up, make a water moat from a shallow bowl so ants, etc. don't get into it. Honey is best kept in fridge, though, to keep critters away. If you use honey.

Be sure you don't have cough drops, etc. anywhere under counter, in a drawer, a purse, even.
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Wow, you guys are all awesome! Thank you everyone!

Kayak, I didn't know about the orange peel stuff, thanks! I will look for something orange for carpenter ants as well. We had an exterminator but my doc told me no more toxins, so we stopped that service.

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I just caught one cat batting around a cap full of borax like it was a new toy to play with. Two of them are staring at me like they have some anxiety. Geeze, I guess I will give them some wet food.

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You could try the Orange Guard spray.

PS This is what one apt in NYC did once, that I was staying at - they spraypainted the cockroaches in dayglo colors - it was a light show at night...

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quote:
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If you put out the borax, put it where the pets cannot get to it.


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i cleaned my kitchen recently. pulled everything out of cabinets, donated to food bank what I didn't want. washed cabinets out and then sprayed floor. had to leave house.

then cleaned out refrigerator with clorox water and pitched what I didn't want.

took two full days and I was pretty pooped out.

I woke up and there was a black line of ants from refrigerator to sink. bet there must have been a thousand. i freaked out.

needed cleaning anyway. been so wet here bet thats what caused it. got outdoor spray and soaked the porch.

that got em.

I kept randi's food in a large popcorn can. she ate in the utility room.

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Be careful about spraying inside the home. I know I would have to move out if I did that.

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I fed them before bed last night and capped their dry food in some left over chinese food containers (tight lid). One of them went nuts on the dry food this am, even after I gave her wet food! She really missed it.

Thanks Robin (orange guard)!

Thanks Lymetoo! I found some places hopefully the cats won't find them.

Randibear, we used to have tons of ants when we lived in TX. Somehow pieces of orange peel helped deter them on the inside.

We just used one orange (ate the inside) and put them outside around our house. They must really hate oranges! I don't know why I didn't think of doing that here too. I'm going to try it once I buy an orange.

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Combat works great. Not off brands, just Combat. I like them because the poison is contained. When we moved into our house in Ohio, there was a roach problem and since I got Combat I have not seen another roach in the almost 10 years we have lived here.

In Florida, roaches are everywhere. I only see dead ones in our house there.

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Is it a spray or a bait thing? I can't handle sprays (mcs).

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I foynd my orange guard and it says its for roaches-and other things-it does smell like oranges...its not a chemical

Are you up at 1 cuz of bugs? Hope not!

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Adrenals. Daylight savings time messed with them. I need to get back on track tho.

I think I will get some orange guard tomorrow, or today! [Smile]

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When i was fighting mice i HAD to put ettas food away at night. She was used to eating when ever she wanted for four years. But the mice would empty her bowl.and then i started to find their stashes all over house. They sorted it by color where they stored it

Anyway, i just started feeding her in a tupperware bowl. At bedtime i covered it and stuck it in fridge. She got used to it-but shes a dog and she sleepscwith me...doesnt eat in nite

The mice went crazy for a few days...then they were gone.

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When i was fighting mice i HAD to put ettas food away at night. She was used to eating when ever she wanted for four years. But the mice would empty her bowl.and then i started to find their stashes all over house. They sorted it by color where they stored it

Anyway, i just started feeding her in a tupperware bowl. At bedtime i covered it and stuck it in fridge. She got used to it-but shes a dog and she sleepscwith me...doesnt eat in nite

The mice went crazy for a few days...then they were gone.

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The other day I was potting plants with a brand new bag of potting soil. I turned back in the direction of the bag and saw a roach on the ground near the bag running away. Then I saw one in the bag crawling out.

Then two more!!! So, please....

Watch those bags of potting soil and do the work outdoors.

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Wow, even it potting soil? They're everywhere!

Does anyone know if zip lock bags will keep them out (cookies)?

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No spray or powder, ok.

My grandma use to use Harris Famous Roach Tablets in a land where roaches were often the size of a sandwich plate.

They can be purchased online from Amazon, etc. They are a bait, just a small pill sized thing from what I remember. I just checked AMAZON and it has a 4 star rating for almost 15o responses, which is very good.

Here is the info... and it is less than $7.oo for 1oo tablets... so very economical.

``Will rid your living areas of roaches and other pests for good
Proven for over 80 years
Just place under the fridge, stove and sink
Effective without harmful fumes or powdery
Approximately 100 tablets``

A typical response from those who bought them...

``I have used Harris Famous Roach Tablet products for years and find them to be most effective. In addition, I have recommended them to countless friends and neighbors, all with stellar results.

For me, this is the ultimate, perfect product. Place them around all entrances to your home and various locations around the kitchen and bath.

They are safe for pets and children, too.

If you keep a close watch on the tablets from day to day, you will see that small bits of them are gone. Take a close look, around the edges and you will notice the tablet losing its shape due to erosion by roaches nibbling at them.

The substance is picked up by the roach and taken to its nest, where the whole roach family partakes. Before long, no more roaches.

And they stay gone for years -- as long as you keep the tablets replenished. I highly recommend ALL of the Harris roach elimination products.``

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quote:
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Combat works great. Not off brands, just Combat. I like them because the poison is contained.

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It's in flat black thingys... contained, as Six said.

Tincup, I think the Harris Roach Tablets contain boric acid from what I remember. I haven't seen those in years.

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Thanks you guys! [Smile]

I haven't been to the store yet (herxing), but did put borax detergent out. I don't know if they are eating it though.

I have pulled all cat food at night but will probably have to clean really well as hubby drops crumbs on the floor. I've had to break up some cat fights early in the morning though (they miss free feeding on their food at night).

I will go to home depot and get some of this stuff as soon as I stop herxing. Or I will send hubby tomorrow!

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One of the caps full of borax looks like something has been in it (by oven). There are a couple of dents in it (doesn't look like cat paws, thinner dents). Hopefully they are eating that one!

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Many moons ago in Florida I use to sprinkle Borax on the rugs and carpets, all over them and around the baseboards, etc.

I would let it sit over night then vacuum it up the next day, and of course you don't get all of it back up again. This was to kill anything, sand fleas, ants, ticks, roaches, silver things, etc. There were two little kids in the house at the time and I had been told this was safe to do.

I still use Borax in the wash and for other things, always keep some handy. Used it today in fact while washing some throw rugs.

And yes TuTu, you are right, the roach tablets contain 4o% Borax I believe.

Good luck Cat girl. Hope you are bug free soon!!!

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Cockroach elimination
http://www2.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef614.asp

Harris Boric Acid Roach Powder
http://www.amazon.com/Harris-Boric-Acid-Roach-Powder/dp/B0026MD0G6/

Boric Acid Roach & Ant Killer
http://www.amazon.com/Boric-Acid-Roach-Ant-Killer/dp/B0016J1MZG/


The first link is informative, and you can google for how does boric acid kill cockroaches to find out more.

The two Amazon links are boric acid powder in puff bottle containers.
Some of the reviews are pretty amusing, these people get so excited about killing bugs, haha.


One thing I learned in reading this was that the boric acid powder needs to be in a fine layer.
Don't just try to spoon it around.

From what I understand, it sticks to the insect's legs by static elecricity, and then they ingest it when they groom themselves.

Sure cockroaches groom themselves...they're not slobs, y'know. [Smile]

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Nice to know Carol. I just sent the cute little roaches at Catgirl`s house a gift box with perfume, tiny little hair brushes, a miniature blow dryer, some pretty clips and bows, and lipstick.

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Oh, and a GIANT toothbrush to keep those big choppers looking nice.

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Ha ha (Carol and Tincup)! Thanks for the info!

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Wow, Carol, such good info you posted! I have my work cut out for me (if only I could stop herxing).

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Any better yet bug girl....

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Ha ha! I think so. The cats aren't as freaked out at night anymore, although I do think there are more roaches. I read somewhere that once you have one you have tons hiding.

I think the borax detergent helped knocked some of them down, but I haven't seen any bodies anywhere so there must be more of them. But then I haven't looked in places they like to hide yet (Carol's link). We have a bunch of paper bags from the grocery store, I remember reading they like those.

I am putting some bait out today (harris/combat). Hopefully that will do the trick. I need to get rid of those bags too.

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And may you be feeling better soon too!!!

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Thanks Tincup!

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OH good. I'm glad you found the Combat. That stuff works.

And yes, I hope you are feeling better! [Smile]

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Thanks Lymetoo!

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