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Lymetoo
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https://www.lens.org/lens/patent/US_4933165_A/fulltext

"Since 1989, Merck has known that their statin drugs were maiming people by destroying their Coq10 levels. In 1989, they patented a statin and Coq10 combination drug. Instead of taking this new drug and developing it, they chose to let hundreds of thousands of people die with CHF and other cardiovascular diseases. They have known about the myopathy that statins cause since 1989."

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Well I guess I'm doing the right thing. I wonder every time I see my primary and she yells at me. I usually read a mercola article and continue to refuse

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Keep refusing .. there is NO proof that they help and NO proof that cholesterol is an issue when it comes to heart disease.

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They can do so much damage in so many ways. There are always better ways to support health. And, yes, cholesterol is not the danger so many have made it out to be.
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my husband insists on taking lipitor. hey, I've talked till I'm blue in the face. I make sure he takes plenty of ubiquinol and fish oil.

but for me, I ain't taking them

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I tell ya...doctors need to get a new script...ever.single.doctor...will argue the statin issue with the very same script...across the board.

I think my poor husband has had to refuse the drug at least twelve times so far and then has had to sit through the same old lecture each and every time.

His functional doctor has done immensely more cardio aftercare than ANY cardiologist to date.

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They are brainwashed by the pharmaceutical reps .. over and over again.

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that or they are being bought. money talks

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Or threatened if they don't write enough prescriptions...it is a quotas/numbers game.
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True.

I'm pretty sure my doc won't write them. My husband has had high cholesterol for years and he has always told him which supplements to take instead of statins. Praise God!

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Oh no! I was recently put on a statin drug for high cholesterol.

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My bf takes Lipitor after his mild heart attack. I saw on a show how it blocks the body's pathway of making coQ10 so he's been on a supplement dose of that.

His cardiologist never mentioned anything about coQ10. Surprising and sad that people aren't being given this information.

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quote:
Originally posted by dogmom2:


His cardiologist never mentioned anything about coQ10. Surprising and sad that people aren't being given this information.

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Borders on criminal because they SHOULD know this by now!

AK... big worry!

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Need to supplement with CoQ10? What mg? Anything else?

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aklnwlf...my suggestion is 300 or 400 mg a day away from fish oil. Keebler will probably have the exact amount.
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momindeep,

thanks for the compliment that I might know but I could never afford CoQ10 and have only taken one bottle, long ago. So I never really studied up on this reason for it, especially as I would never take statins [by brain and adrenals need good fats] so I never needed to know for this reason.

Stephen Sinatra, MD is a heart specialist and his writings might get into dose.

www.mercola.com - Mercola's website - would be the first place I would search both for cautions regarding "statins" & much safer methods

and for "CoQ10" - and he has written about a newer form of that.
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remember older people, I'm 67, cannot process coq adequately. ubiquinol is recommended for us.

and, yep, it's more expensive than coq.

I buymine at costco.

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I use NOW brand from Swanson's .. it's better than nothing. I take 200mg twice a day and it costs me about $22 a month??

Not much when it helps my heart so much. (I don't take and will never take statins.)

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