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Opinions, not medical advice!

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Yikes, that is a very sensational video and I hope I can explain why her conclusions are wrong in an understandable way.

The Covid tests use polyester fibers and these would absolutely be moving due to electrostatic forces. Most kits switched to polyester because it is easily available and easy to scale for large production.

The fibers may be similar in appearance, but that isn't conclusive and there is no way she is seeing nano particles with the naked eye, as in the video at the bottom of the page on your link.

Nanoparticles are NOT visible with conventional light microscopy. It isn't possible to use visible light (optical microscope) to see things that are smaller than the wavelength of that light.

Remember, visible light has wavelengths in the range of 400nm (blue) to 700nm (red).

Nanoparticles are typically defined as particles between 1nm-100nm in diameter, so it’s physically impossible to see with the naked eye, or even with any optical microscopes because optical microscopes rely on visible light.

These require microscopes that don’t use visible light, such as scanning electron, or transmission electron, or even scanning probe microscopy. Without these, it's impossible to see what these claims state.

Through a conventional microscope one can view random, Brownian motion, but movement doesn't mean something is alive or infectious.I have added this here because I've seen these claims made about Brownian motion visible in dark field microscopy decades ago when I was active at Lymenet and people were looking at their blood.

On the surface all these claims are totally bogus. Without proper microscopy and PCR and additional testing, these alarmist claims don't make any sense at all and I'm convinced further testing would prove them all wrong.

Normally, I scroll on by, but I worry thee claims will be used to discredit Morgellon's patients, who suffer even more than Lyme patients, if that's possible.

I also worry they will cause patients needless worry, especially if they have Covid 19 and really should get tested. All of the Covid 19 tests are safe!

The Charles E. Holman Foundation is the only foundation I trust for accurate information about Morgellon's. Until the pandemic disruptions, I was attending their Austin conferences and they share accurate, factual science about the infectious etiology of Morgellon's.

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I know you are a dedicated Truth Seeker because I've known you here at LymeNet for many years, but you will want to be much more careful whenever posting from questionable websites like this one. If you scroll around on that website just a bit more, you will quickly see how much other ridiculous nonsense is posted there.

Because we live conveniently close to Austin, TX where the annual Morgellons conferences are held, I've attended several of their conferences in recent years -- until interrupted by the COVID pandemic these last two years.

All one needs to view these (almost) invisible-to-the-naked-eye Morgellons fibers is a cheap little 60-power, hand-held microscope, which is available on Amazon: RW2XPFS1VXFTYS9F48&pd_rd_r=7c5e61f6-3e85-494e-a840-20cba49105db&pd_rd_wg=QJnjJ&pd_rd_i=B01D96ERFU&psc=1

I said "almost invisible" because I can recall many, many years ago when our daughter used to come to me, complaining about those irritating fibers coming out of her skin, which she claimed to see with her own naked eyes. Yes, she was much younger back then and she had perfect 20/20 vision.

Luckily for her, she got rid of that painful symptom of Morgellons by spending many long hours in the intense summer sun at our family's vacation cottage on Possum Kingdom Lake in West Texas -- until she was as red-brown as an American Indian. (Me too, when I was younger. We have a little bit of Cherokee blood, way far back in our family lineage.)

She did not get rid of any of her other numerous symptoms of Lyme disease though -- only just this one most uncomfortable skin manifestation of it.

It was not until many years later when we first learned about Morgellons disease, while attending ILADS conferences, where we first met Cindy Casey, RN. Cindy used to set up her microscope in the display area during conference breaks, and she would offer to let other Lyme patients examine their own skin lesions.

Cindy Casey Holman, RN founded the CEHF Morgellons Disease group, named after her late husband, who supported her during her years-long quest for an accurate diagnosis.

That's when we first began to appreciate how lucky our daughter had been. She had dodged a bullet by eliminating this unique dermatological symptom, which makes other Morgellons patients' lives so miserable.

Our daughter didn't succeed in eliminating any of her other Lyme disease symptoms so easily, but we later came to appreciate how lucky she was to get rid of this one most miserable dermatological aspect of Lyme disease that summer, several long decades ago.

Here are a few more links for reliable info about Morgellons disease:

For color photographs of Morgellon's Disease lesions, which are not available in the book, due to the exorbitant printing cost for color photos:

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Thank you for your input.

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