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heartsickmommy
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Okay, now I understand our dilemma with our HMO. My daughter has had a rash on her face for 3 days now. It hasn't gotten any better. If anything, it's gotten worse. I don't like the look of it and would like to bring her to see a pediatrician, but as many of you have read on my other thread, we cannot bring her to our HMO anymore.

Here is the link to my previous thread:


http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/029836.html

I don't know what to do!!

Here is the link to her rash:

http://home.comcast.net/~alixsk/Lyme_Disease.html

Please take a look at her rash (1st two photos) for me and see if it looks familiar to you. She switched from Ceftin to Bactrim & Zithromax on Dec. 2nd. Could this be a form of herxing?

Her EM rash came back shortly after starting the Bactrim & Zith, so I figured that the EM recurrance was definitely due to the switch in abx and was most probably a herx (3rd photo down).

Let me note here that the rash is only on the right side of her face. From right side of her forehead all the way down to the throat area. ALL of her Lyme symptoms...and I mean ALL of them...have been on the right side of her body.

She also had Fifth Disease (i.e., "slap cheek") and got a rash on Dec. 1st, but her current rash looks entirely different than the Fifth Disease rash did. Those were raised welts, not tiny pimple like things. Also, the Fifth Disease rash only appeared when she came in from playing outside or just fresh out of a hot bath. It was also distributed evenly on both sides of her face.

This new rash is there ALL of the time and only on the right side (which is where the ticks bit her, of course).

Thanks very much, everyone. You've all been so wonderful.

Lymetoo, if you read this, I haven't made it back to my previous thread yet, but wanted to let you know that the flowers you posted for me and my daughter? Well, when I saw those posted for us I started crying. Literally. Thank you so much for your kindness and compassion.


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well bactrim is partially sulfur derived.

she may be having an allergic reaction to sulfur, which is not contained in any other of the antibiotics that you mentioned. or it may just be a side effect.
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/trisulf_ad.htm

has she stopped the bactrim or is she continuing it? best not to take it for a few days and see if the rash starts to subside.

again, obviously, i'm no doc...

but i hope she feels better soon.

zip


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I wanted Jordan (age 14) to see the picture of the rash. He thinks it looks like the rash he has on his arms.

His rash started on his left arm in the summer. He has been ill for over 5 years and this is the 1st time he has had a rash.

He had just started taking Amoxicillin (after being off antibiotics for awhile) and I thought he was having an allergic reaction to the Amoxicillin. We stopped the Amoxicillin and the rash didn't go away.

I had Dr. C look at the rash in August. He said it was a typical Lyme rash and didn't seem too concerned about it.

The rash went to the other arm and on his chest. It's not gone, but is much better.

He did start taking Cedax in October. That may be why it's getting better.

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Heartsickmommy,

The rash is a little hard to see but when I saw third picture it left no doubt in my mind that it is a Lyme rash. I get that exact same thing on my right ankle with the little dots cropping up. As long as I take antibiotics or a high enough dosage of Olive Leaf extract, I can keep the bumps down but on Olive Leaf alone, I have yet to determine how much I need to take to get it to go away entirely.

I have a big round patch of what now appears to be dry, reddish skin. I don't know if the skin here is permanently affected - or if it will be on your daughter either. Frankly, I'm kinda proud that I have been able to get it to go back this far since I'm trying Olive Leaf right now. If I stop or take any breaks the skin starts errupting quickly.

Oh, and I also had a completely flat bullseye rash appear 10 months into antibiotic treatment when I first got sick. It was the first, large target shaped rash that I saw and I was almost greatful because it confirmed my diagnosis when the tests were failing to do so. However, I did have a small rash on my right ankle in the beginning - roughly in the same area this one keeps reappearing even after 3.5 years.

The target shaped rash with the central clearing went away quickly and I have never seen it since. This ankle rash, on the other hand, comes back repeatedly and, like you, I'm not exactly certain what it means or even if there is any change in the infection when it appears. These days, I'm pretty stable and don't feel any worse or better when it shows up but I've never left it completely unattended for too long either.

Angie


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I'm so sorry if anyone saw my post here. I will claim a huge Lyme brain moment, if you did read what I posted about Ceftin and doxy being in the same drug category, as the poster below noted, THEY ARE NOT.

I did post this because my son was originally said to have a drug allgergic reaction to CECLOR, which is infact, related to CEFTIN.

This I remember, it's coming back to me now. That's why I had to sit in the pedi's waiting room to see if he'd react to CEFTIN, because as a baby, he'd reacted to CECLOR, with raised red welts.

Sheesh, sorry hsmommy. Some days.

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Poor thing!

The re-occurrance of rashes I have had look very similar. They also go away very slowly and tend to itch. The good thing is that they don't get much worse than that.

Of course there could be many other things going on, but those do have a familiar look to them.


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quote:
Ceftin is in the same drug category as doxy.

doxy is a cycline antibiotic whereas ceftin is a cephalasporin. these are 2 compeltely different drugs with different activity in vivo.


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I'm sorry I just saw this because I would have recommended that you call Dr. J's office and see what they thought. I don't know if it is possible to get in touch with him over the weekend, but if the rash doesn't go away I would atleast give it a try.
My daughter had a similiar rash all over when she started the amoxicillan and the ped said it was an allergic reaction,however, we kept her on it and the rash went away. Dr. J said it was a herx not an allergic reaction.
Hope she feels better soon!!

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Thank you all for your help! I hope someday I'll be knowledgeable enough about Lyme and coinfections to help you when you need ?s answered. I feel like all I ever do is suck up information and never give anything back. Hopefully, that will change.

My daughter's rash is now subsiding - thank goodness! As of bedtime last night, it seems to only be on her lower right cheek. I don't know yet about this morning since she's still sleeping, but I'll bet it's even a bit better than last night. She does still have the recurring EM rash on her neck at tick bite site though, but this is the 4th go round with that rash, so I don't fear that one as much as I used to. I don't like it...not one bit...but I'm not scared of it anymore.

So, I've been through my 1st frightening experience w/o the aid of a doc. Now I know what it feels like to not have treatment available. The same feeling so many of you have already experienced. I admire your strength and tenacity. I have a lot to learn from you all. Thanks for helping me along the way.


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