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Silverwolf
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I was looking at some info' at the Lyme organization, to do w/ getting Lyme Bracelets and found info' stating that the 'Cat Scratch disease' is related to Lyme Disease.

In 1980,I was scratched up pretty badly by a stray Tom cat in Loiusiana, developed a nasty sore on my heal and leg where he scratched me,and shortly thereafter had swollen glands sore throat,and achey feverishness w/ a rash.
didn't clue in on anything,until I saw that.

The Locals in SE Louisiana,call it 'Cat Scratch Fever. Thinking back now, I had a nasty 'flu',and UTI just a couple months later as well as *Sinuses that kept getting infected. *A constant problem for me. I didn't know about the cat scratch problems beig a LD problem, but it makes sense if the critter ahd fleas or ticks.

Has anyone else got any info' on this type of thing with Cats scratching and causing humans a problem??? At the time. I think we just used neosporin on the scratches/rash.

I have got to find out if I do in fact have LD,or a co-infectant... SilverwolfPondrin' and Wanderin'!

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Jill E.
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Do a search on this forum for Bartonella, that is the true name of Cat Scratch Disease. However, there are many strains of Bartonella, not just the Cat Scratch variety, that a tick bite can transmit.

If you test positive for Lyme Disease, a Lyme Literate Medical Doctor (LLMD) would then test you for other tick-borne diseases (coinfections), one of which would be Bartonella.

However, there are many strains of each of the tick-borne diseases, making testing a bit challenging. Lyme doctors would also analyze you based upon symptoms.

It is possible to get Cat Scratch Disease from a cat - usually a bite from what I understand. So it can be related to Lyme or it can be independent, to the best of my knowledge.

Jill

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Bartonella can be transmitted from cat scratches or tick bites. It requires treatment and is considered a co-infection if you have Lyme plus bartonella. You can of course get it fromyour cat, and if you are sick from it you will need treatment. Do a search on here, type in cat scratch, or bartonella. you will find a wealth of info. [Smile]
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Thanks for the info' <<<<< Jill E and Wild Condor >>>>> I'll sure check on the Bartonella.

The scratches hurt so bad when the stinker of a cat got me,I am not even sure if the ornery critter may have bitten me too???It's been a long while back ,aorund 1980?,but I remember trying to find shoes that would fit w/o hurting the infected scratch mark on my heel[my other walking shoes had finally worn out].The scar is gone now,but I still have a scar mark under the inside inner knee on my left leg from it all.

Off to find out more info'on BArtonella!

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I recommend you start with Bartonella Alert at
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008362.html

Be sure to read about Bartonella (page 23-24) in Sept '05 "Diag Hints & Treatment Guidelines..."
www.ilads.org/burrascano_0905.html

Dr B says "several aspects of this infection seem to indicate that this tick-associated strain of Bartonella is different from...'cat scratch disease'."

Be aware that some articles about cat scratch disease alone (without Lyme) describe it as a mild, easy to deal with disease. I think some may say it is a self-limiting disease.

In combination with Lyme &/or other Tick-Borne Diseases, Bartonella becomes a more complicated problem.

As with all Co-Infections, there is a lot of overlapping on all the lists of symptoms.

In South Carolina, it's called Cat Scratch Fever, too.

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My daughter had cat scratch last year. Pretty fricking bad. It started to poison her lymph system and she was in the hospital. Her gland is STILL SWOELLEN.

Infectious disease was playing with her so I yanked her and took her to my LLMD. They had my child on everything at the hospital from rocephin, to ceftin, to gentamycin , you name it. She ended up with C difficile.

My LLMD told me it definately was cat scratch which is a bartonella, but a different bartonella strain from the tick bartonella. I THINK I said that right. But in any case,

he said it can make her really sick and put her on zithromax. We did that and all symptoms resolved, but she STILL has that dang lymph node out down there ( which to me means she still has the disease).

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Silverwolf
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Thanks Friends for the info' and the tho'ts!

Now I'm even more curious,tho' I am not sure who might actually know what ai am about to try and ask.

Could Chronic Sinus infections/Bronchitis etc,and IBS/Colitis be caused by LD and/or Co-infectants, in many cases???

For instance,as examples, a virus is now known to be the cause of ulcers,and a virus is known to be the cause of cervical cancer now as well.

So then could sinus and repiritory issues,and IBS type issues be caused by a particular type of bacterium and Diseases?

Some Drs now believe that there is evidnece of a link between sinus problems and digestive disorders such as IBS and GERD. Postnasal drip/sinus secretions/infection,from what I've been reading is/are very acidic.

I don't know if this is making sense from my foggy brain to the post here,but it all is really making me wonder.

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2006,May-August2006 Dx w/ Lyme/Bartonella/White Matter Lesion Disease on Brain.
[ Clinical Dx w/ two positives and several IND's on the tests from Igenex ], Prior Dx of CFIDS/CEBV 1992, and FMS '93-'94
Diabetes*2 Dx 10/'08

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