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Hi, I don't have any adrenal support in place and my LLMD really doesn't mention or even recommend anything for it.
I am sort of stupid when it comes to the adrenals...
just wondering what one thing could address them for support that i could take (i don't want to take another five supplements or anything like that) is there one formula anyone could recommend and where to purchase it?
thanks
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Wilson's adrenal rebuilder has been helping me signifigantly.
It is considered glandulars.
source: natural healthy concepts
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I have Addison's so I need to take hydrocortisone, but I take the following to support whats left of my normal adrenal function and its been much better:
B Complex w/mushroom blend (cordyceps) extra Pantothenic Acid Ester C with bioflavanoids (2 grams a day, taken at 4 intervals) Gotu Kola (helps with my Lyme too-I love this stuff) Vitamin E Fish Oil (one at lunch and dinner)
Since keeping stress under control is real big for me as well as keeping blood sugar under control (an issue with people who have adrenal problems) I follow a strict diet, 6 small meals a day, and practice stress reduction (meditation, positive thought replacement, breathing exercises).
I also take the following to insure a good nights sleep and to help with the anxiety/depression/stress that is caused by adrenal issues:
L-Theanine (I take in AM) 5HTP (night time)
This is probably way more than you would have to do unless you were having severe adrenal problems, but at the very least I'd take the Vit C, B Complex, Fish Oil. I'm sure other people on this site will have some good suggestions as well. I want to stress that while supplements and vitamins/minerals are a great help in supporting adrenals, I truly think the best help is a very good diet, as much stress reduction as you can do (VERY hard considering what we all go through, but it has really made an impact for me), and a good nights sleep of 8 hours if you can manage.
Also-keep baths (epsom) to warm in temp-not hot water. This drains the adrenals. Walking, yoga, light muscle training, stretching are all good forms of exercise, AVOID aerobics-this exercise stuff is needed for getting over lyme anyway, but it helps the adrenals out as well.
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- You might start with Cordyceps, as recommend by Dr. B. Then, you can read more about this fabulous topic.
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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:
Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease
J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008)
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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures, including those to help adrenal/endocrine function:
A recently published study investigated the effects of curcumin, a constituent of the botanical turmeric, on changes in cognition and memory caused by stress. . . .
. . . In this new study, researchers investigated the effect of curcumin supplementation on stress-induced learning defects in mice. . . .
. . . In addition, curcumin reversed the stress-induced increase in the levels of serum corticosterone, the primary hormone secreted during the stress response. . . .
. . . The researchers concluded, ``Thus, curcumin may be an effective therapeutic for learning and memory disturbances as was seen within these stress models, and
its neuroprotective effect was mediated in part by normalizing the corticosterone response, resulting in down-regulating of the phosphorylated calcium/calmodulin kinase II and glutamate receptor levels.''
The Potbelly Syndrome: How Common Germs Cause Obesity, Diabetes, And Heart Disease (Paperback) - 2005
by Russell Farris (Author), Per Marin (Author)
Much about stress reactions here. - you can read customer reviews at the link. Attention is given to lyme and other chronic stealth infections however, it does not go into details about solutions.
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This is not a lyme book.
This book has only one reference to lyme (in the historical use of sarsarparilla for another spirochetal infection). However, it is a vital first book to read - or a reference - for anyone interested in understanding nutritional methods.
Search for Ashwagandha; Cordyceps; Siberian Ginseng in this book:
Graciously, much of this book is on line. It can also be purchased from this site or through Amazon where you can look inside the book and see many customer reviews.
Afternoon naps are often absolutely required, as per Dr. B's self-care guidelines.
Being GLUTEN-FREE can make a huge different with endurance and mood related to adrenal exhaustion. Many LLMD require their patients to be gluten-free, for good reason.
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Ask them to find a practitioner near you to get it from. Try it for about 8 weeks - probably 2 bottles. Approximately $50-$60 for those 2 months.
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keltyl- i found it when i went to the site.
massman- would i have to go to the practitioner in order to purchase it from them?
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Probably have to talk to or see, depends on their policies, why don't you talk to s few + find what suits you the best.
You can tell them that a chiro here suggested it to you.
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You cannot order them from the manufacturer.
I recommend them and a few other companys' supplements due to my experience with thousands of patients. What I do recommend I have used a lot with family members and myself.
That you choose not to listen to a natural health pro of 25 years is up to you.
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Yeah, I'm kind of tired of the InnoVita recommendations... I thought people were not supposed to be selling stuff through this site.
I tried them & they weren't worth the price - IMHO.
Anyway- I like the Jarrow Adrenal Optimizer. It's out of stock from the manufacturers now but hopefully it will be back soon. It's about $13 & it lasted a month or 2.
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and not to beat a dead horse-but once again, emphasis on lots of sleep, stress and anxiety reduction as much as possible, fish oil, and Vit C. These things are basics to any health program but are vitally important to keeping your adrenals happy.
Try to keep up with positive thinking and breathing techniques to keep stress down-I know a lot of people are skeptics about the power of mental health and trying to be positive, but the fact is the more stressed and anxious you are mentally the more your adrenals are going to want to pump out cortisol which is going to drain them and put them under lots of stress.
They are already stressed out from fighting an infection and this stuff has helped me tremendously.
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Graduate: Bancroft School of Massage Therapy 1986 Western States Chiropractic College 1989
Practiced: WA - Wind River Hot Spring Resort OH - Spinal adjusting, NAET Allergy work, NRT (very similar to ART), hormone balancing, work with ADD, ADHD, Autism + more. EDS for diagnostic assistance in many cases.
In WA it was 35-50 massages per week so if we average that at 40 per week X 50 weeks = ?
In OH bought an existing practice with about 3000 patients. After 10 years had added about 2500 new patients to that. Had a stroke 2001, after recovery began traveling more, treating Amish + Mennonites in different areas of the state.
So the hundreds were for certain conditions and the thousands were for others.
Oh, and lots of continuing ed during those times. Lots.
Sparkie - I have endlessly repeated that I do not sell. I have no idea why your post was deleted. If something helps about 85% of people and you are in the 15% not helped, that makes those supps bad ?
Sorry that understanding the specifically mixed herbals stuff is difficult. There are different properties in the roots, leaves, bark etc of the same plant. So specific parts are used.
And different parts of different herbs are blended together to enhance each others effectiveness. The effect is mostly multplicative as opposed to additive.
I have always been a seeker for what works well. And that is why I recommend what I recommend.
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while this battle is entertaining-lets not forget about the original thread and Maureen's concerns!
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Guess I picked that number out of the air. Must have been floating by at that time. An e-x-a-m-p-l-e.
Causes me some stomach upset but really seems to help support my adrenals. Been taking for about a year.
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As I have stated before specific combos that I talk about are based on the work of A. Stuart Wheelwright PhD ND. He began his work in the mid-1950s. He has been dead now for over 20 years.
His work involved measuring frequencies of organs then making mixed herbals + nutritive factors to match those frequencies. This allowed him to make very organ specific blends. No one had ever done that before. Invented the technology then the supplements.
He is dead + still is ahead of the curve. Starting to be some imitators now.
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Perhaps you could go into more detail regarding:
)How an organ has a frequency )How someone is able to find that frequency )How someone is then able to make some "mixed herbals" and match them with the frequency
Also, what are the "nutritive" factors that are added to the organ specific frequency blend?
Could you provide us some links that explain in better detail the work of A. Stuart and explain why no one else is doing this if it is so effective?
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OK, boys and girls, why don't we get back to the subject at hand.
To refresh out memory, here's the original posters question who started this thread:
---------------------- maureen2174 LymeNet Contributor Member # 11471
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"Hi, I don't have any adrenal support in place and my LLMD really doesn't mention or even recommend anything for it.
I am sort of stupid when it comes to the adrenals...
just wondering what one thing could address them for support that i could take (i don't want to take another five supplements or anything like that) is there one formula anyone could recommend and where to purchase it?
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Anyone else have some constructive suggestions for maureen? It's a good question and I'm sure others here have similar questions and curiosity about adrenal support.
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When I read the ingredients of InnoVita - they have alot of inexpensive herbs as fillers. They use some concept of -
"FormCodes� found within the Inno-Vita formulas are genetic amino acid sequences modelled after a healthy human being, rather than relying on the now questionable animal glandulars."
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It is questionable to me as to how they are more effective than other herbal supplements because of this... This is why they are so expensive. Just seems like some scam to justify the high price...
They put alot of interesting herbs together which makes one think that they are doing unusual combinations that may be special - but they seemed weak. The important herbs didn't seem to have much strength since they were so diluted with the cheaper ones.
I like the idea but they just didn't work. There are better brands in my opinion. More expensive doesn't always mean better.
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sparkle,
You bring up a good point. Price doesn't always tell the whole story.
IMO ask around and see what others are using.
The more you see that particular brand name pop up... the more likely it is a quallity product.
Thus why I use Xymogen. not only does my naturopath use it... but my LLMD and a couple health buddies of mine use it as well.
Easy call.
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I also just wasted an hour yesterday reading the Inno-vita product details- and trying to figure out what the 'formcodes' are . They're claiming, basically, that 'formcodes' are amino acid "sequences" (whatever that means) resembling those of glandular animal organs, but without the possible dangers of glandulars. However, they never explain how they formulate the 'formcodes', what the ingredients are (other than saying it's not animal based), etc.
Are the ingredients that the 'formcodes' are made from possibly something like soy or corn or something that people might be allergic to? Do we know? This is why it's useful to have complete ingredient disclosure.
Is it even a physical ingredient or is it the 'healing frequency' stuff that Massman occasionally rails about? Did someone wave a crystal over the herbs and call it an 'amino acid sequence identical to glandulars'?
I'm fairly unimpressed with the herbal combos in the products for the same reason as Sparkle states- though I've seen lots of other 'complexes' sold this way, with many different ingredients and fairly low suggested dosing.
If you're using them at higher dosages they probably work fine, but if you're using the lower dose of 1 pill 3 times a day, I doubt that would give you an effective dose of most of the herbs. True, there is synergy when you use complexes (ie blends), but I don't see anything truly special about what blends they're using.
I know a LOT about making herbal formulas from different parts of the plant and the pharmacology behind it, as did doctors and herbalists prior to the 1920's, it's not a major undiscovered secret. I know a lot about pre-1920's herbalism, they had it down to a science at the time, and it's tragic that it disappeared due to an AMA witchhunt. This formula purports to use that type of formulation but with claims of having discovered something brand new, and different dosing. I don't see that they've got anything particularly special in the InnoVita products I looked at and I think that the herbalists who are bringing back the pre-1920's way of thinking are doing a better job on their formulas than what I see here.
Of course the typical Massman response is that the stuff vibrates on a special magical healing frequency so it's not all the same as the same combo without the InnoVita brand being attached. I unfortunately don't believe in inherent healing frequencies in something non-electrical like dried herbs, and if he doesn't explain what he means by 'frequencies of organs', it's unlikely to make many converts out of people here.
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Agree w/ Sparkle, Cane, & Maria. Good points. Thanks for looking into innovita, I came across all the same questions and got no answers. 3+ years into my journey I have learned to do my homework before shelling out the cash for the upper echelon of supplements.
Don't get me wrong, unfortunately in my experience the more expensive supplements I take are usually of higher quality and more effective but I don't think innovita is that.
Any product whose ingredients are not fully disclosed is a huge red flag to me.
More multi level BS that can be avoided by doing your homework and finding a cheaper, equally effective source.
Apologies to Maureen, I will simmer down now.
As far as more adrenal suggestions, most of the available options out there are mentioned in this thread. There are deviations from these prodcuts but the general gist of them is in this thread.
-Vit C w/ bioflavanoids (https://www.immunematrix.com/store/product.php?productid=16169&cat=0&page=1)
-B vitamins (a multiple will do)
-Glandulars (porcine adrenal glands processed w/ the hormones removed) Wilson's adrenal rebuilder, there are others (http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/adrenal-rebuilder-90-p-endocrine-system.html) Personally these are working for my wife and I rather well.
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WOW... thats all I've got to say wow...my heading is spinning
as for you Maureen if you get this... I am seeing a really good LLMD and I have been having much trouble with my adrenals...didnt know what they were until I got diag. with lyme
Anyway the two things he has me taking are
Perque----adreno distress guard and
Xymogen---Adrenal essence
I have been very pleased with both products and he also has me taking Fish Oil.
Just be careful with Fish oil and research them...many seem to have toxins in them (PCBs-heavy metals and pesticides)..
He has me using Arctic Oils-Omega Pure 600 which claims to not have any. Just dont go to your local drug store for fish oil..
I actually just looked at the label to be sure I had the name and info right and I see that it is also made by Xymogen.
Good luck,
Karen (:
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djf,
You made great suggestions.
I'll just add that probably the most important "supplement" for the adrenals is sleep.
And while supporting the adrenals itself can most definitely help with sleep... it does take effort.
For myself... the adrenal supps (more specifically adrenal stim + calm creams) did an amazing job of correcting my circadian rhythm (which was so out of whack).
Your cortisol should be at its highest in the morning and at it's lowest by bedtime.
^^^ Correcting this is very important (not only in Lyme treatment... but in our every day bodily functions)
I try to turn my comp off, lights off, TV down by 11pm
Then I grab a snack (cashews, almonds, etc) and head to bed.
Sometimes I'll use L-theanine in the evening to help the brain calm down. But I generally don't like to take anything for sleep. i've done it all in the past and have learned that it's only temporary.
Getting your cortisol DOWN by bedtime is the key.
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Cheap fillers, multilevel etc ? ? ?
At first I did not understand the significance of formcodes either. it is my understanding that RNA / DNA factors were first used just before + during the 1920s.
They were from animals and did not contain the whole gland. Basically there were 2 theories on how they worked. If I recall correctly 1 theory said they sustituted for the human gland.
The other said that they were close in basic structure to a gland but since they were from a different animal (not human) they essentially acted as a "decoy" so the immune system attacked them instead of the human bodys' real organs.
When I first heard of formcodes I said yeah, yeah but a week later I had a flash of understanding about them. Non animal but acted very much like RNA / DNA factors from animal glands.
They are made from amino acids, but are NOT single aminos and CANNOT act like single aminos. Knowing what the blended aminos specifically are will not help understanding.
LOL at the "cheap fillers" as those would be the last thing the developer would ever use. How can one with little understanding of mixed herbals post that there are cheap fillers, supposedly to just raise prices ?
Maria could you please post who the frontrunners in mixed herbals were in the early 20th century ? I would like to learn more about them + their work to further my understanding ? Thanks in advance.
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Observe & Report!
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mass,
If innovita was breakthrough stuff it would have taken off by now.
As it is... it just looks like another company trying to gain a competitive edge in the fast growing natural medicine market.
Can't say I blame em.
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"The more you see that particular brand name pop up... the more likely it is a quallity product."
LOL - like I see the names Fruit Loops, Coke + lotsa BigPharma drugs "pop up" a lot. This makes them quality products ?
And when I see the pig fly to the moon I believe that too
I visited the Xymogen site. Very slick marketing is what jumps right out. Ah...we are such a visually oriented society.
Using Systemic for as example, how could Doc Wheelwright generate publicity when he was traveling ALL populated continents and spending time with native healers that lived there ? Starting in the 1950s ?
He had a very small company run by family. A slick businessman he wasn't. He was way beyond a master herbalist.
Who figured out how to measure frequencies of organs ? (Access Gigi's mention of this that energy comes first). Because of that you can use the same formula on an over or underactive organ.
Cane you have become such an expert after working on how many besides yourself ?
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Changing symptoms? Try resolving symptoms. (Yes I judge progress based on how I FEEL... crazy concept ehh?)
I've gone through great measures to improve my health... from lifestyle, dietary, supplemental, and sleep changes.
I don't have to treat "thousands" of patients to confirm my progress. I'm living through it.
Go measure the frequency of your brain and supplement accordingly.
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as for their writings, there are quite a few libraries that preserved the textbooks (which I think would be REALLY hard to learn from using medical philosophies of today, though people are trying), and a few herbalist websites have put a few of them online.
The late Michael Moore, the herbalist, is the best known person who's resurrected a lot of the Eclectic formulas and diagnostic modes (which relied on "constitutional" diagnosis, somewhat like Chinese Medicine does, meaning, as one example, that three patients with the same infection might get 3 different remedies depending on various ways the infection presented itself in their bodies). Moore probably damaged his own body doing some of the research on Eclectic formulas- he did some work on things like aconite and other poisonous plants, and allegedly just tried things on himself to learn what was a 'toxic' dose.
Moore passed away about two years ago, although his herbal school lives on and it's website is here: http://www.swsbm.com/homepage/
if you scroll down, you'll find a BUNCH of the old Eclectic texts, and also somewhere in his site are free downloads of Moore's own books including one on constitutional medicine as much has he's been able to resurrect it in the modern herbalism context.
(he also sells reproductions of some of these books, I think, as well as having authored some of his own. I think he might be the person who originated what we now call the BLT formula for Lyme that's sold by the same naturopath who makes Crypto-Plus)
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Not really sure, didnt know the Xymogen site had "slick marketing"
To be honest I'm usually too sick to check stuff like that out. All I know is My LLMD (whom I trust) recommends different brands of supplements ...not just one brand and they seem to help, so thats what I go on.
I do check out different avenues (ebay, online sites etc) to see if I can get cheaper but I have found my LLMD is in line with other places...NOT jacking the prices up to make a larger profit..he knows my funds are limited and he works to help me get best meds within reasonable price.
When I was first diag. I was VERY skeptical of supplements (I had NEVER been a big fan of all "this stuff") but the more I've learned the more I know they are necessary.
With that being said..supplements are like alot of things...you get what you pay for ...no more expensive doesnt make better...but better quality makes better.
I've researched the supplement companies I use and I like them for what they provide NOT because they have a slick wedsite.
Good luck Maureen finding some good supplements.
Karen (:
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pab,
I really like ortho-molecular
I use their pro biotic (cuz it includes Saccharides) 20 billion CFU's
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Thanks Maria - I'm going to look into those links later...
Massman - we appreciate your experience. It would be nice if you posted about more specific things than just recommending a brand of supplements. It seems you've been helping people for a long time. You must know more than just telling us to take an InnoVita product.
I really did give them a chance to work. I'm just doubtful of these frequencies that they use. I was a vegetarian for many years because I didn't want to kill animals. I like the idea of being able to use the Formcodes rather than glandulars - they just didn't work for me.
I am interested in frequencies & I use them through other methods like audio CDs for meditation & brainwave entrainment. Also, with the LightWorks - it uses the Nogier frequencies.
There was alot of work done in this area via Rife, Tesla, etc. back in the 20's & prior before certain interests cracked down on it's use & experimentation... Seems the "official" model of medicine was to be drugs - not frequencies.
Anyway - sorry to divert this thread any further. I am interested in finding a good adrenal formula. I do like the Jarrow one but it's not in stock right now. I'm looking for something to use in the mean time...
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The Apex Energetic Creams I use have glanudlars in them.
You should google Apex Energetics Adrenal Stim and Adrenal Calm and read th ingredients and see what you think.
But basic supplements are Vit C (2g+/day) and B5(1g/day+)
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..poor 6goofykids... I break up enough squabbles at work and with kids... LOL!
mass, I'm very surprised your not using the PSP Therapy from Allergie-Immun that Gigi found in Germany. If you're into Energetics, this would be the treatment for you to consider, whether with or without Lyme sx's. I'm not into Energetics, per se, but am giving PSP a go in order to help detox and find out if it can rid me of a couple of inherited disorders... Have had some interesting results and think it might work to some degree. Too early to tell.
MariaA and others, I understand what you're saying and I'm part of the 'biochem' camp when it comes to herbs or vits/supps in general.
I think it's likely impossible to formulate an energetic vitamin, supp / support formula based on a specific frequency, to be marketed to the public at large that works for 100% of the people. I also think it's likely impossible to formulate a specific biochemical vitamin, supp / support formula that works for 100% of the people. We all have some degree of variant and require slight differences to facilitate healing.
However, one basic factor that seems to play out across the board is that the more "whole" the component (as found in nature), the better it is. (This is biochem speak and not energetics.)
mass, seriously, you need to explore the Allergie-Immun Germany thread in Med Questions.
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Haha, Ping! Seems everyone is calmed down now and it makes life easier for all of us.
Frequency technology is interesting. The Bionic 880 uses frequencies and light. When I got back from Germany I bought a Philip Stein watch with frequency technology. I was intrigued by the muscle testing showing that it counteracted EMF's put off by cell phones. I love my watch, but have no idea how much it contributed to my wellness today. I do know I haven't taken it off except to shower or go to the pool since Nov 2008.
I don't think anything works for everyone. We are all different, different pathogens, different genes, and most likely different frequencies.
We've known light (frequencies) is good for our health for many, many years .... I'm talking about the sun! I think this "Star Trek" medicine is new, so we don't know much about it, but could be promising.
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Thanks Maria. The links are really interesting! I'm surprised you aren't using exclusively herbs for your protocol...
Eclectic medicine was a branch of American medicine which made use of botanical remedies along with other substances and physical therapy practices, popular in the latter half of the 19th and first half of the 20th centuries.
The term was coined by Constantine Samuel Rafinesque (1784 to 1841), a physician living among the Native Americans, and observing their use of medicinal plants. Rafinesque used the word "eclectic" to refer to those physicians who employed whatever was found to be beneficial to their patients (eclectic being derived from the Greek word "eklego", meaning "to choose from").
Therefore, "Eclectics" were doctors who practiced with a philosophy of "alignment with nature," learning from and using concepts from other schools of medical thought. They opposed the techniques of bleeding, chemical purging and the use of mercury compounds common among the "conventional" doctors of that time.[1]
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ping - currently have possible surgery being lined up. My concentration now is on that.
Will access more of what you have suggested in a bit. Thanks.
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