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XxDarkEuphoriaxX
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SO, first of all, I am beginning to think I might have ulcerative colitis. Or crohns disease. I did take Accutaine for about a year. But since I have been taking cat's claw the stomach problems have slightly improved. BUT every time I drink a soda (especially a citrus soda) I suddenly have to go to the bathroom (within 20 minuets) and the outcome isn't good. IT does look like there is blood in the stool. Very concerning. Happens more often after a soda tho, I don't know why.

I have been reading that marijuana greatly helps with symptoms of UC and crohn's disease. Even putting it in remission. If I were to use it for this purpose, would it affect the immune system in a neg way as to hinder lyme treatment?

If I do actually have UC or Crohns, I am going to avoid steroids and immune suppressors, with a passion. Going to try all natural treatment and diet changes if at all possible. thx

I am on 1000MG of ceftin a day. Could this be causing these severe GI symptoms, EVEN tho I am on a good probiotic? (only one brand tho)

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Hi X

I cant tell you if weed helps with UC or crohns
but I will tell you about my experience
with with using weed-

The whole time that I have been sick
with lyme and babs 22 plus years
I smoked weed daily --not alot but
a few bong hits daily--

It Really helped with upset stomach
and weed also has a ABX effect also-

Some times I would run out of weed for a week or so and I would notice that I got sicker -

I did not post here about this effect
till I read this article about the ABX effect--

Also I am perty sure that I would have
Done My Self In if I had not been smoking some herb daily-

It can sure make things Funnier than they really are--

Here is a post about herb I did in 08 --Jay--

Click here to read post

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I've tried it for pain-while it works wonders for pain I can't stand feeling high. I feel so damn stupid.

Before I tried it for pain I could honestly say I had never done a drug in my life and now I know why. The high is just annoying. I really have NO idea why people choose to use this stuff recreationally.

I would love the pain relief without the high. I don't like feeling like time is standing still, not fun. I don't like feel dizzy or brain-fogged, I get that enough.

I hear it's safer, but I don't buy it completely. While it has never been proven that marijuana causes lung cancer (at least according to my Criminal Justice Text, written in 2009) it's hard to believe it wouldn't cause it with all the bad stuff entering your lungs much like a cigarette.

I'm also sure it kills brain cells, and I swear I don't want to feel more dumb then Lyme has made me feel already.

Personal choice, I like the pain relief...I'd rather have pills that don't make me high though.

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I had Crohn's symptoms. When in treatment I could only eat food that was blended or soups, otherwise, major problems. I can't even imagine the effects that a soda would have had, YIKES!!!

I would recommend The Body Ecology Diet book. It's all about healing the gut.

Also, I had bartonella and MAJOR parasites wreaking havoc in my gut. Once I took care of those, it was much better.

I am in remission from Lyme and co., but am still working on continuing to heal my gut. I do have a family history of gut trouble, so I'm not thinking it's 100% Lyme. It goes back 3 generations that I know of. At this point I can eat normally, have normal bowel movements, but do have a bit of trouble with raw vegetables. That is a long way from a liquid diet.

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Six: What drugs did you use to heal Bartonella? What did you take for the parasites?

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First Symptom 9/09
Multiple docs, negative Labcorp test
LLMD: 1/10
Positive Igenex/CDC test
Treatment 2/10
2/10-8/10 Amox, ceftin, zith, flagyl
Currently: Bicillin, Minocycline, still dealing with severe breathing issues

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XxDarkEuphoriaxX
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Apparently my mom, my uncle, and my mom's dad (my grandpa) all have IBS. So I guess it runs in the family BUT what I have seems awfully bad to "just be IBS" but maybe it is...

went to PCP today said probably IBS, could do a colonoscopy to rule out crohn's or UC. Otherwise I was pretty healthy.

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Lyme can cause IBS. So can liver dysfunction. IBS can be caused by so many things and even if it seems to run in families, diet can often be the culprit. So can parasites.

First: Are you gluten-free? If not, have you been assessed for Celiac? THIS is really important to find out.

You said: " . . . every time I drink a soda . . ."

Sorry to say this, but sodas are just terrible for us in so many ways. Diet soda is toxic due to several ingredients. Aspartame is so very toxic - I sure hope you've not been drinking diet soda.

The citrus flavoring in those sodas just eats away the lining of the can or bottle. It's not REAL citrus, ever.

Regular has so much sugar (mostly from chemical ladened corn) and also artificial stuff that no human should consume.

All sodas have carbonation that can just tear up the inside of anyone's stomach. And the lining of the can, be that metal or plastic-lining, adds to the toxic load. Sodas from plastic bottles are even more toxic.

I'm shocked that your doctors have not instructed you to avoid all sodas. That's negligent on their part. I'm also shocked they have not discussed the possibility of celiac.

Green Tea may be a nice switch. If you want a little sweetness, pure stevia (from a plant) is okay. Pomegranate Juice, unsweetened with a dash of stevia can be very nice, etc.

Go for the real deal. You can make your own citrus drink with a little organic lemon or lime and stevia - in water. Avoid carbonated water, totally.

I also hope you are avoiding all processed foods. There's so much bad stuff in that to harm anyone's G.I. system.

Slippery Elm bark and DGL can be soothing as you figure all this out.

Hope you get some answers and feel better soon.
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I understand..."pot" impacts the CB1 and CB2 receptors.

Google also: Cannabinoids Multiple Sclerosis

Currently that's what AA is doing.(= arachidonic acid from Omega 6s)in lyme.

Which isn't good.

Soldiers with post traumatic syndrome have been denied Vet help if they use "pot", but that was reversed just recently in Virginia. BUT...vet doctors will still NOT Rx it.

Google this:

Virginia cannabinoids veterans post traumatic

Find this:

Role of cannabinoid receptors in inhibiting macrophage costimulatory activity

(We've been talking here about how the macrophages might not be working in the posts re:Gc-MAF (MAF = macrophage activating factor- which supposedly isn't working.)

Find "legit" websites on HOW it works...don't go by "blogs".

READ - read - read and evaluate it for yourself.

I understand, but there has to be another way.

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quote:
Originally posted by BackinStOlaf:
Six: What drugs did you use to heal Bartonella? What did you take for the parasites?

levaquin for bartonella.

Humaworm, oregano oil, plant tannins, enula for parasites. Not all together .... did four rounds of Humaworm. Enula worked on roundworms.

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Have you been tested 3x for c.difficile?

If you have not been on Florastor this can happen. It mimics UC, IBS and Crohns disease.

Marijuana can be great for spasms, cramping pain and nausea.

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well what is better, VSL #3 or Florastor?

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and they did say to avoid sugar. (but I had/have a hard time) I have been tested for celiac came back neg.

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Florastor is s boulardii (a yeast probiotic) to prevent c diff. VSL#3 is 450 billion organisms of various strains of bacteria. If not VSL#3, you should be taking something with bacterial probiotics.

I had to take VSL#3 or I had constant gut trouble (didn't digest food, at the very least 5 trips to the bathroom in a bad kind of way). Before Lyme diagnosis, I had to know where every bathroom in town was so that if I was away from home, I could find a clean bathroom. It was really, really bad for me.

I was negative for celiac, but because gluten is so hard to digest, did much better gluten free until my gut symptoms got better.

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Could the marijuana be a placebo effect?
(I'm a pot-smoking newb. Wasn't aware it could have potential stomach benefits)

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Look into the Specific Carbohydrate Diet and/or the GAPS diet. (very similar) You will find a ton of info on SCD and UC.

www.gaps.me

www.breakingthevisciouscycle.info

www.scdiet.org

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I did not see anything to prevent Yeasts. I think it is another key lyme treatment that can cause many bowel problems. I take Nystatin 4 times a day-others take Diflucan.

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You should be on both VSL # 3 and Florastor. They work very differently. Florastor is a beneficial fungus that works in the colon to crowd out c.diff spores, it is not a probiotic.
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