Jane2904
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Searched for post on Buspar. I did not find much information on this board.
Looking for good or bad, experiences etc. Did it help the anxiety?
Also, anyone take it while taking Biaxin? Pharmacist said it is okay to take together even though I read that taken together can cause symptoms of serotonin syndrome.
Thanks for any input.
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- Depends on why would you be taking it. If to correct some deficiency, it's best to go with specific nutritional support. It did not work for me but, at that time, I'd not even heard of magnesium, hawthorn or adrenal support. All those have been much better for me.
Buspar is most often prescribed for anxiety. And, with lyme, anxiety is caused by infection. Treating infection is key.
However, anxiety is also caused by the neurotoxic hit. The liver takes a hit and the heart and the endocrine system go into shock. So, by going with magnesium, adrenal support and liver support, the underlying reasons are addressed. '
Lyme causes magnesium deficiency. And that can cause anxiety. I'd star with magnesium, then move on to adrenal and cardiac support.
What is your current liver support? Is your adrenal support balanced? Is the brand of fish oil you use working for you? ----------------
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Jane2904
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Thanks for the information Keebler.
It is for anxiety. Bartonella seems to be adding to the anxiety problem.
Daughter has bad anxiety. It is keeping her home from school, out with friends etc.
She does take Milk thistle, 120mg of mag. glycinate, Vit d3.
I think we need to add in fish oil. Thanks for the helpful information.
I just hate to add in more medicine. She is sens. to many meds.
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- Hmmm. Thinking of calming foods. Is she getting enough whole grains? Fish (low on the mercury scale, though).
Black rice and red quinoa help me. The nutritional content of both are very good. Lentils are also very good.
You might consider Gotu Kola. I've got a whole composite page on that if you want me to post it. It calms startle reflexes (so does Salvia m.) and both help lower anxiety. Salvia m. is more calming. Gotu Kola can help bring focus but without agitation. -
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My daughter tried Buspar when we first went to work on her anxiety, before we knew she had Lyme.
I don't remember what effect it had on her anxiety, but we took her off from it because it gave her headaches.
She did well for a while on Elavil for anxiety and headaches.
For a long time, I thought she could not tolerate the SSRI's, but this time around, we started very low for a while. I did even lower than what her psychiatrist said and worked her up very slowly. So you might try a very low dose of whatever you try to see if that helps her tolerate it.
I would trust the pharamacist to know if there is a real risk of serotonin syndrome.
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Jane2904
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Thanks jkmom, sorry your daughter is not feeling well.
Thanks again Keebler for the helpful information. I would like the information on the Gotu Kola when you feel up to posting.
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- Anxiety can be a result of elevated porphyrins, a toxic by-product. See the "Secondary Porphyria" post here, and the the KPU / HPU posts:
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- GOTU KOLA --------------
Gotu Kola (not a cola) can calm the nervous system while also helping with alertness. It helps give a sense of well-being without feeling �wired� or �hungover�.
Of everything I've used over the years, I cannot say enough good about the wonderful effects I've seen - in many ways - from Gotu Kola.
GOTU KOLA -- An Under-Appreciated Herb: Multifaceted Benefits on Microcirculation for Cardiovascular and Cognitive Health -- By Linda Fugate, PhD
The best nutrition in the world will not do anyone any good if it doesn�t reach our tissues. The gatekeeper to tissues is the microcirculatory system, which includes blood vessels smaller than 0.1 mm in diameter. The health of the microcirculatory system is now recognized as critical to the total health of the individual. (1)
Gotu Kola�s Effect on the Circulatory System . . . .
From Wound Healing to Brain Health . . . .
. . . Gotu Kola�s primary action is enhancement of the health of the circulatory system. Because circulation is critical to the health of the entire body, Gotu Kola offers benefits in a variety of conditions.
The antioxidant and collagen supportive functions of Gotu Kola are particularly important in enhancing healing of damaged tissues. . . .
- Full article � and citations � at link above.
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From: The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook (Tillotson, et.al.)
. . . bitter and astringent in taste and cooling in action. It is a brain and memory tonic, and an anti-poison, and very useful for wound and skin healing. . . .
. . . TAM doctors use it as a brain and memory tonic, and have found it especially useful in children.
In Nepal, during the ceremony for the first day of spring, gotu kola leaf is given to schoolchildren to help them in their studies by improving memory and concentration.
It is very safe and extremely effective. TAM doctors also use it to cleanse the system of toxins and reduce inflammation. TCM doctors use gotu kola to clear up boils and toxic fevers. . .
The primary effects of gotu kola include both wound healing and improvement of mental clarity and emotional balance. . . .
. . . � The Indian Central Council for Research on Ayurveda and Siddha, citing more than ten pharmacological and animal studies of gotu kola, also found evidence of the following characteristics:
CNS depressant [calming without causing drowiness], memory enhancer, �� anti-convulsant, �� antispasmodic, behavior and intelligence enhancer, and blood sugar regulator (Pandley et al., eds, 1996).
One of the solutions mentioned (by Tillotson) for calming is Seven Forests Acorus Tablets. A search will bring up sources and the ITM link in the article takes you right to a research article about that.
I have taken many of the things suggested and, while no longer a child and not (exactly) ADD, I have a very sensitive system and would be glad to share my experiences with certain things if that helps.
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From: The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook (Tillotson, et.al.)
Chinese Herbal Treatment for Attention Deficit Disorder
Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) is a broad syndrome that may include hyperkinetic syndrome, hyperactivity, and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD).
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Acorus was mentioned in an link above as being calming. Here is more on that:
Latin: Salvia miltiorrhiza Chinese: Dan shen English: Asian red sage
Salvia root is bitter in taste, and slightly cold in action. It promotes blood circulation while reducing general of blood vessel inflammation. It has anti-arteriosclerotic properties
SAFETY ISSUES: Should not be used while taking anticoagulant medications such as Wayfarin unless under the direction of a qualified health care practitioner. Bleeding may result (Izzat et al., 1998).
Do not use internally in tincture form. In very rare cases Salvia may thin the blood too much and cause increased bruising, in which case the dosage should be lowered or stopped.
. . . TCM doctors use salvia root to invigorate and move the blood. . . . etc. -
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. . . Turmeric root is bitter in taste and warming in action. It strongly reduces inflammation and mucus in all parts of the body, protects the liver, lungs and intestines . . . .
� . . . If you have bile duct obstruction, gall stones, or stomach ulcers: due to mucin-reducing effects, do not use the concentrated extract (curcumin) or oil in high doses. Use turmeric as a spice freely. . . .
. . . full article at link above.
From �The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook� (Tilltoson, et.al.)
A recently published study investigated the effects of curcumin, a constituent of the botanical turmeric, on changes in cognition and memory caused by stress. . . .
In this new study, researchers investigated the effect of curcumin supplementation on stress-induced learning defects in mice. . . .
The results of the study showed that curcumin reversed memory deficits in a dose dependent manner, meaning increasing dosages of curcumin provided increasingly improved memory in the mice.
In addition, curcumin reversed the stress-induced increase in the levels of serum corticosterone, the primary hormone secreted during the stress response.
The researchers also found that the effectiveness of curcumin was similar to the effects of a tri-cyclic antidepressant.
. . . inhibited changes due to corticosterone-induced toxicity including preserving nerve cell connections, and inhibiting the corticosterone-induced activation of the enzyme calcium/calmodulin kinase II and stimulated glutamate receptor expression, which play a role in neurotransmitter secretion and certain kinds of memory and learning.
The researchers concluded, �Thus, curcumin may be an effective therapeutic for learning and memory disturbances as was seen within these stress models, and
its neuroprotective effect was mediated in part by normalizing the corticosterone response, resulting in down-regulating of the phosphorylated calcium/calmodulin kinase II and glutamate receptor levels.� -
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- After all that, it would be best to get individualized treatment with a LL ND or similar kind of professional. Massage can also help a lot to decrease anxiety. -------------------
Topic: How to find a LL ND (naturopathic doctor), L. Ac. (acupuncturist), etc.
Includes how to find an ILADS-educated LL ND, an Acupuncturist, a doctor of Oriental Medicine (O.M.D.), or a doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine (D.Ay.), certified herbalists or nutritionists, etc.
Includes many articles and books on complementary / integrative methods - & RIFE links.
BODY WORK links are also included. -
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many thanks to you Keebler.
I have lots to read and digest. Thank you for taking the time to post all this great information.
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- Hope it helps. All this is adjunct. Treating all infections is key but, along the way, the things listed above have helped me. Of all, weekly massage was the best when I could keep that going.
You might see if you and all your friends could hire a massage therapist instructor to teach you a few things and get a real massage circle going. Even just daily foot massages with family and friends can help but - when possible - professional massage is fabulous for the brain, the liver, the spirit.
Good luck. -
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I take 20mg Buspar twice a day. My jaw clenching and teeth grinding was very severe and the Buspar got rid of 95% of it....changed my life! Thanks to those on the list who suggested it!
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