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How important is Red Root for improving coinfection? From Buhner's protocol, cost is always and but for a late stager with Bab is Red Root essetial.
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Are you under a doctor's care?
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My son's first visit to a LLMD is in two weeks.
We have been to 5 doctors in 2 years without a diagnosis. Lyme symptoms becoming much more obvious and frequent.
We tracked my son's tick byte back to Virginia summer of 06. More obvious symptoms began about 16 months later. Read Buhner's and Dr. Singleton's book.
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I want to qualify that I don't know my lyme herbs as well as I know them in a generalized sense, but I have been formally studying herbalism with some major authorities in the field (lucky me).
That said, I can't comment about it as lyme killing herb (Buhner is better here) but I *do* know it is a very important lymph cleanser and yes, it has anti-bacterial action.
The lymph is usually impacted with lyme and to cleanse it can be important.
I don't think Buhner is all about making money, even if every professional in their field also has to just to survive. I think he is genuinely interested in human health and that is what I have seen in the herbalism field. SOme of these people will blast stories about herbs at risk to sales, just to set the records straight, will disclose side effects that (in herbs like chamomile) happen once every twenty years, that kind of thing. Very ethical and healing oriented, that has been my honest experience.
That doesn't mean there aren't some within the field who aren't. And there are herbal scams out there.
Those who have researched the science as Buhner has are usually pretty ethical and upfront. It's the salespeople marketing multi level marketing herbs, with sign-up contracts involved, that are usually the scams. And unfortunately they do exist. Some of these scams also are formulated in ways that would create side effects, I have seen that too.
I would trust Buhner, and I can say for sure that red root is a very potent herb where lymph cleansing is concerned. I wouldn't doubt its antibacterial impacts too. But I am not making claims about it as medication, I am not allowed to make such statements, and won't. Herbs don't *kill* bacteria per se (usually), instead they nourish the body's own defenses with phytonutrients so it is better able to heal itself.
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Personally I think the red root is very good as a lymphatic. I don't really think it kills any of the infections. But both bartonella and babesia reside inside red blood cells. To kill the infection the blood cells have to burst open-- especially in babesia they do this when the parasites multiply -- and then the antibiotic or killing herb can find the bacteria or parasite to kill it.
All of that cellular debris is very toxic and can clog the lymphatic system. Hubby has been taking 3 droppers of red root 2 times per day but he is on a very heavy duty babesia treatment protocol currently. He got a massage yesterday and the therapist said that his lymph was sluggish.
In the past his herbalist had him on 4 droppers of the red root 2 times per day. Plus he was taking 2 or 3 drops of poke root 2 times per day as well. I had cut back on the dose of red root and switched to a cheaper brand. Plan to switch back to the Gaia brand which seemed to work better -- hubby said he had to urinate more on the other brand so I think it was working better.
Buhner does not mention it but I would also consider taking lumbrokinase or wobenzyme or something similar as well.
This is not medical advice, just my opinion based on hubby's experiences.
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Hello Bea and Matt FYI red root does have anti-bacterial properties. I just could'nt comment about its work with spirochetes because I am not studied in this area.
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I hate to sound like a nit-picker, but it seems like Chaquita is suggesting that some herbs, and perhaps red root, might serve to have anti-bacterial properties but that they do so in an indirect manner by stimulating the bodies meatbolism to enhance the immune systems attack on such pathogens. I am not sure if a distinction between an herb that has consitituents that attack pathogens directly as opposed to those who enhance immunity is worthy of a distinction. But if there are such different types it might be worth noting. My impression of herbs is that they effect the immune system directly and therfore effect pathogens indirectly.
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mattnapa,
Agree with your statement. Also keep in mind - if your immune cells (T-Cells, B-Cells, NK Cells, etc) are outnumbered by spirochetes & other infections - you can do all the "boosting" you want to and it won't matter.
Picture 1 red dot on a piece of paper surrounded by 10 black dots. And this analogy probably doesn't do justice for the invasion our immune system is up against either (probably more like 50:1)
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