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Suz22
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I went for my OT appt and the secretary who is studying to be a herbalist was telling me about Teasel for Lyme. She gave me a copy of an article she read, the website is www.hisgoodherbs.com.

Has anyone tried this? In all my research I had never heard of this before. Just wondering if any of you tried it and if so did it help?
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There have been mixed "reviews" of teasel root. Some have done very well with it, others barely noticed any benefit.

As with just about any Rx or supplement to help with lyme, it can be a valuable player just not as a stand-alone approach.

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http://www.choosecra.com/store/prl/specialties/spiro-nil.html

PRL - SpiroNil

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Teasel is mentioned on the last line on page four as having anti-inflammatory properties:
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http://www.naturofm.com/web_resources/Lyme%20Info.pdf

Adjunctive Care for Lyme Disease and Co-infections: A Naturopathic Perspective

By: Dr. Deborah Sellars, N.D. (April 2010) - six pages

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When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:

if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL (lyme literate) doctor who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -

- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present.

Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.

When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/2/13964

How to find an ILADS-educated LL:

N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor);

L.Ac. (Acupuncturist);

D.Ay. (Doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine);

D.O.M. (Doctor of Oriental Medicine);

Integrative / Holistic M.D., etc. (Be aware that those in this category can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first.)

Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:

Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;

knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.

You can compare and contrast many approaches.

BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links,

BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,

LOW HEAT INFRARED SAUNA detail,

BIONIC 880 (& PE-1) links, and

RIFE links.
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There have been several past threads you can find in the archives here at LymeNet. Search in the "subject" line:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/search/search_forum/1
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It's written about in Steven Buhner's book "Healing Lyme." I've tried the teasel root tincture drops since last summer, along with curcumin capsules, and the two of them seem to reduce joint and tissue inflammation for me.
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Years ago, I took teasel root extract as a stand alone approach when that is the only lead I had and no LLMD or LL ND around.

After starting slowly (good advice with anything), and working up to the optimum dose, I was patient and gave it many months with no improvement.

Of course, now I know that it was not enough at all, alone. Not even close.

Still, it has seemed to benefit some more than others but still - lyme treatment MUST be comprehensive. Combinations and rotations are vital, most often with Rx and with herbal and with nutritional supplements (vitamins, minerals), etc.

And lyme is never "just" lyme. So much has to be considered. More about what, here:

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Diagnosing Lyme Disease (&/or whatever else is going on)

Other tick-borne infections and other chronic stealth infections - as well as certain conditions - that can hold us back are discussed here.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=013239;p=0

(What ILADS is) . . . WHY you need an ILADS-educated, Lyme Literate Doctor - starting with assessment / evaluation.
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Keebler, thanks for all the good info and links. I did do a search before I posted but I didn't see where anyone said whether or not it helped just that they were taking it. Just wondering if it helped anyone and what their experience was.
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Since Robin mentions Buhner's book, and you seem hungry for herbal information, here are two top sources. They are in the "ND Thread" link above but that can take a while to sort through.

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Teasel Root is detailed on pages 157-158 here:

http://tinyurl.com/5vnsjg (through Amazon)

Book: Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections - by Stephen Harrod Buhner

Website: http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/

Forum: http://planetthrive.com/category/experts/buhner/

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http://www.gaianstudies.org/Lyme.html

Buhner�s recommendations for professionals familiar with his work. Scroll down for list.

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Teasel is not in this book, still, excellent information here:

Allicin (from Garlic), Coptis, Smilax are key here:

http://tinyurl.com/5drx94

Lyme Disease and Modern Chinese Medicine - by Dr. QingCai Zhang, MD & Yale Zhang

web site: try www.sinomedresearch.org

Passwords: "clinic" and then "clinic" again

or call for help: Hepapro - www.hepapro.com
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Suz,

Hope you get more replies. As I seem to recall, if it's one that is "meant to work" for you (so to speak), you'll likely know fairly soon and experience some improvement.

I don't recall reading about any adverse effects but it's always best to start with just ONE drop in about 1/2 cup of water and ease up gradually.

There are more links through Google with:

Teasel, Borrelia
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Thanks Robin and Keebler that's what I wanted to know. It was a good article and as you said Keebler in combination with other treatment the man said he did really well. I am always searching and asking for any treatment that may help, I am sure we all are but that's the problem there are so many bugs going along for the ride that one thing or treatment is not enough. I will speak with my doctor and look more into it.
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Good luck. You might want to copy the link to this thread so you have it at your fingertips for the various approaches.

If something does not work at one time, it may be useful later on - or in a different combination. And visa versa, once in a while I'll go back to an old favorite and it has lost its charm. We are after "moving targets" - our terrain changes so - so we have to stay on our toes.

Take care.
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Thank you! Having a bad insomnia night so I might as well do some research. : )
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I never noticed any results on it.

Moving to Medical Questions

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