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Lymes.

there. its better just to join in than keep saying its:
"Lyme a proper noun not Lymes the possesive "
whatcha think?


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Arguing about semantics is pointless.

Just say it correctly yourself and others hopefully will catch on. If someone else says it incorrectly, you have a gauge about their level of knowledge about the disease.


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You know what I like even more?

Statements such as :

My LLMD said my LYMES ... yada yada

better back up, regroup and check out that LLMD one more time.


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I have seen the lymes word used and I don't give it as much thought as you. give that person a break and give your mind something else to worry about...sheesh....

Maybe those that use it think it is possesive in that it posseses their whole being, thus the reasoning behind their use.

obsesive compulsive are we??? zman

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Lymes is plurel for Lyme and Lyme's is posessive for Lyme!!! Just a thought.

Yes, folks, for those that do NOT know, Lyme Disease was named after a town named Lyme, Conn., not Lymes, Conn.

That is like calling my town Magnolias, plural, rather than the real name of Magnolia. Or Little Rocks, rather than Little Rock....you get the picture I'm sure.

But, I, too, have heard my beloved PCP call it Lymes and he, thank God I found him, diagnosed me with Lyme Disease in Jan 2002. Lymes, Lyme's, Lymes' or Lyme Disease, it really doesn't matter if you get a correct diagnosis, now does it?

Still haven't caught my LLMD, Dr. C of MO saying Lymes, but thought I saw it in one of his handouts. (Don't quote me on that for I don't have the time to look for it right now) I am at the point now of, who cares anymore.

"A Rose by any other name will smell the same."---like a Rose.

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I like TBI or TBD best. THey cover it all.
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Purists hahahha


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Purists eat smoked salmon with nothing more than lemon and black pepper.

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You guys are funny.

It irks me too. Especially after I've said the word properly to people numerous times and they still say "Lymes."

Dr. C's paperwork was probably typed by someone who didn't know better, BTW.

A Lyme by any other name...???

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It doesn't bother me that much. In fact I kind of like it. I think it's kind of insulting to Lyme and I'm all about that. Now if someone called me Brians I might get a little upset.
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I call it neuroborreliosis.
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I, too call it neurobor....oops today is not a cognitive day...today it is lyme. HA!
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....I call it *X#$@!!%!

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I guess even a doctor who says "Lymes" doesn't bother me as much as a US President who after 3.5 years in office persists in saying "nukular". If you can't pronounce *that* you shouldn't be allowed to have your finger on the launch button.
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....those who say 'fillum' and 'cawahffee' shouldn't criticize regional speech patterns.
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quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
....those who say 'fillum' and 'cawahffee' shouldn't criticize regional speech patterns.

Ok, Charlie....I think you are talking about coffee and .....?? Help me out.

As for Lyme vs. Lymes......I agree with my mom, but it still gets on my nerves (Lymessssss)! hehe


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quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
....those who say 'fillum' and 'cawahffee' shouldn't criticize regional speech patterns.

WORD!


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I know what you mean! Hubby always says "Lymes" despite my constant corrections! Drives me buggy!

But, when you think about it, how many of us are infected with just *one* Lyme spirochete? Therefore, to say one had/has "Lymes" may be the more semantickally correct term.

However, what about when referring to a group of Lyme sufferers? Should we refer to a group of Lyme patients as "Lymes" patients? Or rather, would the term "Lymies"--dropping the "e" and adding "ies" be more accurate?

Or maybe the "m" should also be doubled like "Lymmies"?

Now, to add to the confusion, when we refer to a particular group of rodents that can carry Lyme(s), we don't call them "deer mouses" or "deer micies" but deer "mice".

Following that premise, we would have to refer to our plight not as "Lymes" nor "Lymmies" but "Lice"--which would give people the wrong impression entirely.

Most think of "Lice" as a bug on the outside of the head, not as a bug on the inside of the head as is the case with most of us.

I guess this is why we don't have a spell/grammar checker at LymeNet.


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Amanda...fillum is what goes in the Kodak don't cha see. That's if the kodak is around Valley stream Long Guyland where my ex in laws used to live.

Not just to rag on NY folks, I had a guy from the peoples republic of taxachussetts call my big ol' stretch cab diesel pickup a 'gabbage badge'.

point being for the previous poster; if you make fun of peoples' accents you leave yourself wide open.....

Charlie

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I have found thru the years that when I learn EVERYTHING about my enemy...including it's properly pronounced name.....

and, then use it.

I am better for it...shows more respect.

Trout

I also say Borreliosis on occassion.


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Remember the old saying...give someone an inch and they take a mile.

Well let's NOT start with Lyme...remember WE are the educators...Not the Medical Profession.


Trout

PS....remember ANY tick can give Lyme, and
do NOT say "bullseye" rash...as they sometimes only show up in 25 % of those infected.


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My $.02
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/023239.html

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Tabbytamer...you get an A for your post from me. Well done! Isn't the English language a paradox and lots of fun to play with at times!?
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Kam,

Yes, a paradox is lots more fun than a pair of Ducks

Whoops. I'd better quit this silliness before the big TC yells at me. Afterall, this is the Medical forum

(Luv ya TC!)


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Chuckie boy, you should remember you are from the land where people say SEEment for the stuff that is the driveway and INNsurance for that stuff we all pay money for and doesn't give us our meds. Did I say that slow enough for all you southners? wehn I visited Long Eyeland guess what happened..Dahyam Eye broke a naayull!!!
and for you real purists, it would be
Neuroborreliosis with a capital "N" on yer smoked salmon and it might be italicized since it has the name of the critter included. Not sure.
Now to really get it correct lets all type in Lymese...
iT woudl go smoethign lkie this my LldM saix I has Lymes my eliZa sez neg adsn now I thINk I sud jusb bent ovrer adn kisz my aszz gudbye.

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This is not funny this is really serious how can we get cured until we get everyone to say Lyme?????

treepatrol. does that mean you are nekked with a salt shaker and a wedge of lemone's when you eat that smoked salmon? had to ask

well My Lym'es and bartonella's is making me tird i must go to bed know.


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I call it a two year long nightmare that is finally over. So what if some average Joe calles it Limes and serves me a Margirita to celebrate my recovery???

Ding Dong the Bb is dead....focus on the solution and lets not major on the minors


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You guys are all too funny.

The first time I was being treated for Lyme in my family doc's office the nurse wrote "Limes" now that is funny!


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Hey lyme shmime....

you can't limit it to neuroboreliosis cus it infects other organs and you can't really limit it to TBD's because who knows...dr whitaker in the Bowen institute is convincied it comes by way of infected mosquito's and upper air dust particles from the mid east deposited in the soil of Florida...

then there's the conspiracy theories...

How about in utero infection....

then there is the transfusion theories or even autogolous tissue's spreading the disease...

donated tissues in transplants could also infect the recipient....

All I remember from 1st year english lit is that Chomsky wrote a book about eskimo only having one word for "snow" while we civilized folk have quite a few....his ultimate point about descriptive language is that all one must do is convey a thought from one to another and the process of communication has taken place....

%^**&()lyme sucks $#$#@ it! the zman

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well, its funny and not.
I was in the nuthouse and the doc wrote MUST get treated for her Limes...
I thought maybe they were going to spray the citrus trees in my yard. oh wait, I dont have any.
I have learned that if you cannot find your way to humor and the irony of life, you havent watched enough of the comedy channel and read enough shakespear or had too little exposure to Lily Tomlin.
Yes limes sux, it does. but its better than lupus ms als abc and xyz
esp if you have a doc and some treatment.

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No matter what you call it I think we can all agree that it sucks bigtime. As long as everyone knows what you mean, whatever floats your boat!
I end up saying just, "Lyme", or, when typing here, "L.D.", or even just "LD".
I'm big on context, and very small on ...'correctness'... you should say it in your own way, and let the rest of us catch up in the interpretation department!
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Neuroborelliosis may be the 'correct' term for the disease, but the public knows it as lyme......wouldn't it be better to let the public know what we have? Stay on the same page so to speak.

Ok, so how is nuclear pronounced y'all?

I say new-clee-er, but viva la difference as long as we are all on the same page.


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Once Bitten....I could picture Mel Gibson reading your lines in his Scottish Kilts as I was reading them. That was fun. Thanks for the laughs.

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While it's really sad that a lot of people can't even spell or say this 4-letter word (Lyme) correctly, it's even sadder that some in the medical profession have never heard of the term. For it being the 2nd most prevelant infectious disease, this is kind of silly. And it's because our government agencies and medical professionals have done a great job keeping it out of the public eye.

-greg

P.S. I actually think that because our disease is called Lyme (which sounds stupid anyway) people don't take it seriously. Most people are probably are thinking that Lyme = Citrus Fruit Disorder.


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Hope I don't make this worse, but why
get upset if people are at least talking about the right disease. Hell, I would have given anything to have had an early Dr. call it lymes, instead of sending my daughter to psych. after psych. and being in psych wards. Look at the big picture guys..

We have so much more to worry about...and we really don't need to argue with each other over pronunciations( regional dialect) or spelling. I have dyslexia and will now fear every time I post incase I screw up.

Let's work together to help and not hurt. You are a great bunch that have helped to save my sanity. Keep it fun and informative. lymemomtooo


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quote:
Originally posted by TheCrimeOfLyme:
My LLMD said my LYMES ... yada yada

better back up, regroup and check out that LLMD one more time.


That doesn't mean the LLMD said "Lymes."

In my opinion, there IS NO PLURAL for Lyme.

If there are two people with Lyme, it's "Lyme patients."

Personally, "Lymes" drives me nuts, just as LYME does!

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KAM said..

"I could picture Mel Gibson reading your lines in his Scottish Kilts as I was reading them. That was fun."

Ah hem.... I beg your pardon?

With all due respect little fruitcake...

Let's watch where that mind of yours is going my dear.

You KNOW he is off limits to everyone here but ME!


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quote:
Originally posted by Lymetoo:

If there are two people with Lyme, it's "Lyme patients."

Or "Lyme Disease patients". "Lymies", however, shouldn't be used by anyone that expects to be taken seriously. Despite our common thread, I refuse to be associated with anyone that uses that term.

Lyme Disease is a lame name in the first place, so it's pointless to argue about "Lyme" vs. "Lyme's".

Correcting someone will just put them off. Just say it correctly yourself; eventually they will catch on.


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Well, I have to say, "lymes" irks me a little bit too. At first it didn't bother me, but when I took my daughter to 7 doctors and not one of them pronounced the word correctly it got me thinking...

Trout said "Well let's NOT start with Lyme...remember WE are the educators...Not the Medical Profession."

And I think he has a valid point here. If our doctors can't even say the word correctly, how can we expect them to look it up on the internet or research it in text books.

And I have to say hearing a doctor say "lymes" sends a chill up my spine. About the same place the 3 ducks did a lumbar puncture on me

I find myself constantly ( and politely) correcting people who use the term lymes, and 9 times out of 10, they appreciate being told the correct name.

I would hope if I was running around using the wrong term to discuss an illness, someone would correct me.

Just my 2 cents..
~Missy

Also just for the record, there is a difference in someone pronouncing a word differently due to an accent...


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Well, since we're getting picky, Lymes would be plural not possessive. There aint no apostrophe in it.

This is not RECIPEGIRL. It's her husband.


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Are you sure this is Mr. Recipiegirl? And not just Mrs. Recipiegirl hiding behind an alias?
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Hey fellow Texan! If Lyme is an adjective ["Lyme disease"] then it can't be plural.

Also, Lyme's can't be possessive because it can't "own" anything or "possess" anything.......EXCEPT US!

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TC Thanks for the laugh.

I am sure if we could get Mel and you in a movie about Lyme the case of Lyme vs Limes would be closed!


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Meg: You pronounced "nuclear" correctly. Others pronouce it "newk-ya-loor."

It's like how some pronounce "jewelry" as "jewlaree."

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Originally posted by once bitten:

This is not funny this is really serious how can we get cured until we get everyone to say Lyme?????

treepatrol. does that mean you are nekked with a salt shaker and a wedge of lemone's when you eat that smoked salmon? had to ask

well My Lym'es and bartonella's is making me tird i must go to bed know.



Nekked thats fun hahahaha


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Starphoenix, or like people saying "reel a tee" for the word Realty, a two syllable word not three. Same goes for "reel a tore" or "reel e tore"
It's REAL-TOR!!!

Now, that drives me crazy!!!

Rosemary

I know, I know, silly of us, isn't it? But, hey, I needed so fun thoughts today.


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Lymessss drives me nuts like my mother in law says vinyl......
vinnnn--illll
her problem isn't regional

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Hi!

This is a funny thread!

I'm glad to know that I'm not alone, though. I usually don't mind when the general public calls it "Lymes" (there are lots of diseases that I don't know about, and initials for diseases that I can't remember). But it gets me every time my Harvard-educated ob/gyn asks me about my "Lymes."

She's a fantastic ob/gyn, so, I am not going to complain! But it gets to me that even someone from such an excellent background (Harvard educated, Harvard faculty) - does not know that it is "Lyme."

Once, before an app't, I planned ahead how I would graciously correct her. And then I lost my nerve.

I tell myself: She takes it seriously, and is willing to work with my LLMD, so it is just not worth complaining about!

But, still... I think we are raw because not knowing the correct word is sort of emblematic of how little our illness is in fact understood by others, particularly in the medical fields.

I hope everyone's Lymes gets betters soons!


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I say,"Tick diseases".

Gets people asking what ELSE do ticks carry besides.....Lyme's disease!!!:O


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