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wrotek
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this is a article http://www.relfe.com/caffeine.html

this is from CAFFEINE BLUES
Okay, I know this article won't be popular. Most of us are so addicted to Caffeine that we don't want to know about it. I am writing this because when "Caffeine Blues" came out I just knew I had to read it. Several years ago I began to realise that coffee was much worse than we had been told, because I noticed that I got an arthritic pain in my wrist within ten to twenty minutes of a cappucino!
This book didn't just tell me how bad coffee was - it told me how GOOD I would feel once I was totally caffeine free for two months. Somehow, this book sold me on giving it a try. And it was right! For example, I no longer have the drained feeling that I sometimes used to get in the mornings.
This is one of the best health books I have ever read. It is written by Stephen Cherniske who is a Clinical Nutritionist. "Caffeine Blues" is incredibly easy to read, and convincing. After reading it I realized that caffeine does NOT give us energy. In fact, it is a major CAUSE of LACK of energy. However, he explains that this drug is so powerful that one needs to go for three weeks to two months without any caffeine before one notices the difference. And how many of us have ever done that? Hardly anyone.
As Cherniske waded through the tons of information on caffeine, he began to see that consciously or unconsciously nearly every researcher starts from the assumption that caffeine is okay. Why? Probably because they themselves depended on caffeine.
Caffeine is in coffee, tea, chocolate, colas, chuppa-chups, many sodas, some drugs, most 'energy' drinks and guarana.
A 6 oz cup of:
* Percolated coffee has about 120 mg of caffeine
* Black tea has about 70 mg of caffeine
* Green tea about 35 mg of caffeine
* Leading colas 45 mg of caffeine
* Mountain dew 54 mg of caffeine
* Brewed decaf has 5 mg of caffeine
* Milk chocolate has 6 mg per ounce
* Baking chocolate has 35 mg per ounce.
Caffeine is produced by more than eighty species of plants. The reason may well be survival. As it turns out, caffeine is a biological poison used by plants as a pesticide.
Caffeine is considered harmless simply because it is so widely used.
There is a brochure available in hospitals and other medical related areas: "What you should know about caffeine" published by the International Food Information Council (IFIC) in Washington DC. After many phone calls Cherniske finally got a list of 'supporters' of the IFIC. The list included Pepsi, Coca-Cola, M&M, Nutrasweet, Nestle and Hershey - all of whom have caffeine in their drinks and foods. 'Partners' of the IFIC included groups such as the National Association of Pediatric Nurses and the Children's Advertising Review Unit of the Council of Better Business Bureau Inc. This brochure says that "Caffeine is normally excreted within several hours after consumption". In fact, only 1% is excreted. The remaining 99% has to be detoxified by the liver.
It can take up to 12 hours to detoxify a single cup of coffee.
Many studies regarding coffee and hypertension were flawed, because the test studies came off coffee for only one or two weeks. It takes many more weeks than this for stress hormone levels of the body to return to normal.
The 'half-life' of a drug is the time it takes the body to remove one half of the dose. Caffeine is a drug. The half-life of a single dose of caffeine ranges from three to TWELVE hours.
Caffeine puts your body into stress. A single 250 milligram dose of caffeine (the equivalent of about 2.5 six ounce cups of coffee) has been shown to increase levels of the stress hormone epinephrine (adrenaline) by over 200%.
Caffeine triggers a classic fight-or-flight reaction. The fight-or-flight response was designed for events that happened only occasionally (such as a lion chasing you). Now, we put our body in fight-or-flight every day with caffeine!!! Since we are in society, we don't respond in a fight-or-flight way. Instead, other things may happen. For example, sugar and fat get dumped unused in the bloodstream. The sugar creates more stress. The fat clogs the arteries. The digestive system slows or shuts down.
Not only is caffeine addictive, it also encourages other addictions to substances like nicotine.
Caffeine does not give you energy. It stimulates your nervous system and adrenals. That's not energy, that's stress. Imagine going to a bank for a loan. The loan officer agrees to your loan. But as you leave the bank you notice the fine print - the loan has to be repaid at 75% interest! The 'energy' that you think you get from caffeine is really just a loan from the adrenals and liver, and the interest you have to pay is very high.
Stress is a major factor in disorders such as anxiety, insomnia, depression, ulcers, rheumatoid arthritis, headache, hypoglycemia, asthma, herpes, hypertension and heart disease. And yet hospitals provide coffee and tea, which put your body into stress!!!
DHEA is our vitality hormone. Decreased levels of DHEA is a cause of aging. Caffeine consumption leads to DHEA deficiency.
Caffeine lowers the stress threshold in virtually everyone. That is, if you have had caffeine, it will be easier for you to suffer from emotional stress. (Therefore, when research is done that is designed to show how safe caffeine is, any test subject who is under significant stress is removed from the study).
Caffeine is implicated in ulcers and irritable bowel syndrome: GABA is produced in the intestinal tract, where it calms anxiety and stress. Caffeine disrupts the normal metabolism of GABA.
Caffeine disrupts sleep. Deep sleep is CRITICAL to good health. When there's caffeine in your bloodstream, you are unlikely to experience deep sleep at all!
Caffeine AT ANY TIME of the day can cause sleep problems, especially if you are under stress.
Malnutrition is one of the most well-defined effects of habitual caffeine intake.
A single cup of coffee can reduce iron absorption from a meal by as much as 75%.
People do not develop a tolerance to the anxiety-producing effects of caffeine. Rather, people simply become accustomed to the feelings of stress, irritability and aggressiveness produced by the drug.
Caffeine contributes to depression in well-defined ways. This is particularly due to the withdrawal effect, which can cause headache, depression and fatigue, even in light users (p. 111). Cherniske reported that 90% of people who came to him who suffered from depression and gave up caffeine completely for 2 months reported that their depression went away!
If you are a coffee (or tea or cola) drinker, you may be thinking, "Well, I drink coffee and I'm not depressed." It's necessary to state that everyone is different, and also that depression can be subtle. Throughout the book, Cherniske suggests that you will never know the full effect the drug is having on you until you experience what life is like caffeine free (which takes two months to do). Over the years, Cherniske has heard similar responses from hundreds of clients: "Wow, I never realized that caffeine made me so (select one: anxious, depressed, irritable)."
Students the world over use caffeine not only to stay awake, but also they believe the drug will improve their performance on exams. Solid research, however, illustrates that as little as 100 milligrams of caffeine (one cup of coffee, two cups of cola) can cause a significant DECREASE in recall and reasoning.
When people are relaxed and given caffeine, caffeine does not raise blood pressure significantly. But how many people are relaxed? When people are stressed and given caffeine, blood pressure is raised significantly.
Women who consume more than 24 ounces of coffee (6 moderate cups) per day had almost twice the risk of heart attack compared to non-coffee drinkers. Moderate coffee drinkers with high cholesterol had more than seven times the risk of heart attack, while heavy coffee drinkers had eighteen times the risk of non-coffee drinkers!
Caffeine depletes your supplies of thiamin and other B vitamins, calcium, magnesium, potassium, iron and zinc.
Caffeine increases calcium loss and risk of osteoporosis.
In one large study, the risk for hip fracture for those women who consumed the most caffeine was 300% greater than it was for the group that consumed little or no caffeine.
Take the Challenge! Most people have no idea what life would be like without the background of caffeine and stress hormones coursing through their veins. Even if you're only having a few cups a coffee, chances are your personality is affected in ways that may be too subtle for you to associate with caffeine. I want to encourage you to conduct a trial period without caffeine. You owe it to yourself.
Don't' go 'cold turkey'. To avoid headaches etc. when giving up caffeine, Cherniske recommends taking up to six weeks to come off it. Drink the same NUMBER of cups, but each week reduce the strength or amount in each cup.
There is lots more information in this very easy-to-read and highly interesting book. 440 pages. Read this book and you won't need to spend so much on supplements!
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Do you drink cofffeine>?
I do and i want to stop it for 2 months to see what will hapen. I drink tea since born almost.


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Would you mind going back and breaking your post up into parts?

I have been battling with whether or not to drink coffee and would like to read it.

I will go a long time without it. But, do find if I need to go somewhere it works great most of the time in helping me get there.

And since the cold weather is here, I have been searching for a nice hot cup of coffee that I like.

I also take excedrin to help me travel. I know that the caffeine in excedrin makes a difference as I have tried other over the counter medicines and they didn't help.


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When I first became ill (no diagnosis) I went off coffee cold turkey for about 3 months. I don't drink any soda or much tea, so there was no sacrifice there.

I can say without hesitation that it made no difference whatsoever in my twitching and pain levels. So I'm back to my Starbucks in the morning.

Do what you feel you must do and I hope it helps you. I would say that soda, esp. artificially sweetened soda, would be beneficial to give up.

Good luck,

Sue


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I stopped all caffeine when I was having severe anxiety and panic attacks,

Any caffeine would raise my heart rate to 170.

I stopped cold turkey for 3 months.
I didnt notice anything different.

Just no "triggered" panic attacks.

I was still very depressed and disabled and tired and foggy.


I belive that its best to cut down.

Its imnortant to note though that eliminating all caffeine may not be the panacea that all are looking for.


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Caffeine gives me head pressure. Yick


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Wrotek - any thoughts that the arthritic pain after cappucino's was from the milk and not the coffee? Many people notice differences in pain with dairy intake. I definitely do better without dairy.

I drink much more caffeine on treatment than I ever did before. I take 30mg of Flexeril every night. I'm in a hangover fog every morning until that cup of coffee...and it's become one of my very best friends.

Coffee and tea are also both high in antioxidants. There is good in with the cafeine.


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It's also extremely acidic, which makes for a comfy environment for yeast. We spend our days fighting to be non-acidic - why would you intentionally want to create yeast takeover?

I gave up all caffeine, cold turkey, a year and a half ago.

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I would agree with aniek, to some extent. But I also agree with wrotek.
Caffeine is a powerful drug. You must be careful. But it's got me through a number of "tight places", where I needed to somehow keep going in spite of being sick, and/or in spite of being tired.
After use, especially coffee, it seems there are some toxic effects, and that "detox" herbs are called for.
I don't drink much coffee, but I do drink a fair amount of green tea. From my experience, I'd say cofee is more powerful, and tastes good, but seems to also have more toxins, or, at least, irritants, in it.
Coffee tends to cause, for me, GI distress, and tends to give me diarreah unless I've been drinking it somewhat regularly. Green tea, on the other hand, is very helpful for digestion, and gives me energy, even though it won't keep you from sleeping when you want to like coffee sometimes does. It either relaxes, or energizes me, depending on what I need it to do (it does what I want it to do, always!) For me it is miracle material.
If I have to work after not sleeping enough, though, there's nothing like that java!
DaveS

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quote:
Originally posted by lymeinhell:
It's also extremely acidic, which makes for a comfy environment for yeast. We spend our days fighting to be non-acidic - why would you intentionally want to create yeast takeover?


Because I want a balance in my life. I'm not intentionally creating a yeast takeover. Besides coffee, I follow a very strict anti-yeast diet, take plenty of probiotics and an anti-fungal.

We all need a balance between our illness/treatment and the rest of our life. I don't let either the illness or the treatment stop me from living my life. Right now, caffeine helps me.

We are also all different and all have to make different choices in our treatment. We do what works best for ourselves.



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My Doctor told me that I had to stop drinking caffine.

He told me that caffine dehydrates you and therefore it is harder for the antibiotics to work.

He told me straight out if you continue to drink caffine I will not be able to help you.

He also told me to stop eating sugar. I am telling you a no caffine, no sugar diet is very very hard to do.

But I will try anything to feel better.

Thanks!!

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For those who really don't want to give up that cup of joe, I'd like to mention that I can only tolerate dark roast coffee.

Tastes way better to me and is far less acidic than the bilgewater they brew at the office and the convenience store. So if acid is your main concern, try a little French Roast and see if that helps you.

Sorry if this is not really in the spirit the thread was intended.


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I hadnt drank any caffein for over 10 year when I started getting real sick.

I then got up to a dozen cups of coffee a day when I was trying to hold onto my business and have a life. I finally lost it all and am now at home keeping the sofa warm.

Gave up the caffein up completely and dont feel one bit better.

Caffein may or not be any good for us but drinking it or not is not going to make us better.

I wish it was that simple. I dont drink it or soda, eat organic and healthy to be the best I can be but none of this has made me able to join life in the world again but when I find the answer I want to be in good shape so I can jump into life so give up the coffee etc and lets keep our fingers crossed for a better morrow


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