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liz28
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Hi, everyone.

I have to start levaquin or rifampin along with doxy sometime next week. I'm in the middle of graduate school, job hunting, and interviewing with the top recruiters in my profession.

Also, my LLMD is being dropped by my insurance company in two months, which means I have to do all my consults by phone. In other words, I don't have many chances to get this right.

I've been looking through the search engine for discussions of this. Many of the posters have disappeared from the board, or praised treatments which then went on to fail for them. Others list terrifying side effects which could ruin whatever professional reputation I have. Still others had problems with lev or rif, but eventually reveal they had other serious problems besides Lyme/bart, such as depression, etc.

If there is anyone out there who has reputable information on these abx, or who got better without experiencing side effects, I would appreciate any insight you have. Thank you.


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Hi Liz.

I haven't started treatment for bart yet, but I did talk to someone that said they had success with doxy and levaquin. They took doxy for 2 months and then added levaquin for 3 more months.Bart was gone after that. The levaquin did cause some side effects though. I think rifampin is tough also. How long does your Dr think it will take to get rid of bart?

Do you think that the ketek was successful in getting rid of lyme, or are you still working on it? That was quite a drug regime you were on!


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jeezowhiz, liz. After all this, a little swim in a shark-and-alligator infested lagoon would seem relaxing.

We went through the same thing trying to make our treatment decision. There is a total dearth of information about why and under what circumstances these abx have severe adverse effects.

All I can tell you is that the hubby did OK on 2 months of levaquin with zith - some soreness, but nothing dire physically or mentally. Was extremely tired, but that's been going on for years. Fatigue didn't get noticeably worse. He took a ton of glucosamine sulfate/chrondroitin while taking levaquin; don't knwo if that helped prevent the tendon damage.

He did have an allergic reaction to Septra, which he was supposed to be on for 2 months following the levaquin. But we were watching for it and caught it early, so no serious harm done. The doc put him on Ketek instead of the Septra -- but I don't know what bona fides Ketek has for bart. So far so good on the Ketek. We're both taking Samento.

Haven't completed the course of meds for bart, so haven't done the follow up tests to see if it all worked. But he's doing better, having had almost a year on bicillin, finished babs tx, and done 3 months of bart treatment (more to come). He is generally in a good mood, has more energy (still not a lot, but can get through a whole day without a nap} and is clearer headed than he was.


Sorry I can't tell you anything more definitive.

Good luck.


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I have been there amd done that...

Rifampin has the reputation for being really rough. It was not that bad for me except for really bad headaches.

Levaquin was pretty easy to take, except you have to watch out for problems with the tendons. If money is an issue go with the rifampin, it is on old drug and does not cost much. One month of levaquine will be about $400.

I found Doxy hard on the stomach... realy hard, in fact harder than any of the other abx out there.

Depending on how sick you are you might want to plan around the symptom flair that might occur. Ie at about 4 days after you start and about 4 weeks after you start (results may vary). Again depending on what your symptoms are and how bad they are the flairs might only last a couple of days but may be there all the time. You can always back off on the dose if you need to. On my first round (I went straight to IV) I had to do this because of a snow storm. It was only a sngle missed dose but it casues the symtoms to abate for the next day.


In terms of effect, Levaquin provided no improvement except to eliminate my stinky sweat. It no longer smell like onions??? Night sweats also abated during this time but they returned as soon as I stopped.

Rifampin did have positive effects on clarity of thought and hearing but resulted in terrible headaches at times.

Doxy did not do anything for me, I had to go back to IV ceftriaxone.


Thats about it for me.


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Hi, I just logged on to apologize for writing this complaining post earlier this evening, and saw all these nice responses.

Please excuse my grousing. I'm just your typical stressed out Lymie, and very nervous after reading all archives on the quinolone antibiotics. Plus it's been a while since I've called around to different LLMDs, and found out what they charge for an initial visit.

Thanks very much for your kind advice.


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treepatrol
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Levaquin be careful. http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/020495.html
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What are levofloxacin tablets? (Back to top)
LEVOFLOXACIN (Levaquin�) is an antibiotic. Levofloxacin kills certain bacteria or stops their growth. It is used to treat urinary tract, prostate, skin, sinus and lung infections, as well as other infections. Generic levofloxacin tablets are not yet available.

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They need to know if you have any of these conditions:
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*aluminum salts
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Keep out of the reach of children in a container that small children cannot open.

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Liz,

I took Levaquin with Augmentin for many months (I think 6 or so). I did have more pain in Levaquin, particularly in my hip and feet. But I'm significantly improved from where I was prior to the Levaquin.

From my understanding, the tendon damage with quinolines is not common. It's just that when it happens it's bad.

I did exercise while on the Levaquin, but stayed away from anything high impact and from weights. I did yoga fine.

Also, I work full-time and started part-time law school while on the Levaquin.


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Hey - I took Rifampin w/ Bactrim DS I think.

Following my Rocephin IV, the doc wanted to try Levaquin which I did but experienced severe tendon pain and had to stop.

We later tried the third generation one Avelox, I had worse tendon reaction to that one.

I basically had no probs w/ Rifampin while on it but, didn't have the positive Bart test until after I had taken it for awhile for something else.

Bart test went negative after the Chloramphenicol IV I did.

Good luck w/ it all. I was still working full-time while doing all of this. It's rough stuff - finally had to give it all up and just be still!

Sherry

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liz28
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Hi, everybody. Thank you very much for your responses.

Just want to let you know--I'm on Day 2 of levaquin/doxy (after 3 months of mepron/ artemisinin for babesia, and 6 months of ketek/omnicef/flagyl) and it's working so fast it's hard to trust the results. Are there really abx out there that work in two days? Couldn't be.


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I dont know Liz but my son started Rifampin/bactrim on Sunday and I have seen marked difference in him in 24 hours.
Pattiecake (who is afraid to hope)

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Levaquin was real tough for me. I was either herxing from it or I was having terrible side effects. I was only able to take it for 3 weeks. My entire body hurt.

Since then I've been on Cipro (1 1/2 months) and Factive (1 1/2 months) and both have helped me tremendously.

I must say that I have had some side effects from Factive, but they are tolerable. My biggest "side effect" complaint is some swelling in my ring finger joints.

I exercise regularly and have no tendon problems.

I haven't taken Rifampin yet.

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