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SForsgren
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I read about Lauricidin in the Lyme and Rife book. It is reported to provide benefits similar to taking coconut oil and work well for Lyme.

Anyone here tried it?
http://www.lauricidin.com/default.asp

Thanks,
Scott www.BetterHealthGuy.com


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Coconut oil

The animals fed the hydrogenated coconut oil (as the only fat source) naturally became essential fatty acid deficient; their serum cholesterol increased.

Diets that cause an essential fatty acid deficiency always produce an increase in serum cholesterol levels as well as in increase in the atherosclerotic indices.

Enig reported in her article that the effects of coconut oil on persons with low cholesterol levels was the opposite of persons with high cholesterol levels. Of persons with low total cholesterol counts, she wrote that ``there may be a rising of serum cholesterol, LDL cholesterol and especially HDL cholesterol.'' In persons with high cholesterol levels, ``there is lowering of total cholesterol and LDL cholesterol.''

Based on her calculations on the amount of lauric acid found in human Mother's milk, Dr. Enig suggests a rich lauric acid diet would contain about 24 grams of lauric acid daily for the average adult.

This amount could be found in about 3.5 tablespoons of coconut oil or 10 ounces of ``Pure Coconut Milk.'' Coconut Milk is made in Sri Lanka and imported into the United States. It can be found in health food stores and in local grocery stores in the International Foods section or in specialty grocery stores that sell products imported from Thailand, the Philippines or East India.

About 7 ounces of raw coconut daily would contain 24 grams of lauric acid. 24 grams of lauric acid is the therapeutic daily dose for adults suggested by Mary Enig based on her research of the lauric acid content of mother's milk. (1)

http://www.karlloren.com/diet/p89.htm

This is the reason why coconut oil is preferred when cooking for people who have difficulty digesting fat. Coconut oil is used in infant milk formulation to supply fat.
This facilitates absorption of calcium and magnesium essential for bone development.

Mother's milk, especially the colostrum, is rich in lauric fatty acid, a major component of coconut oil. This is the one responsible for protecting the newborn baby against disease and many more.
www.coconut-info.com/coconut_oil_uses_and_issues.htm


And my next file will be...;-)


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Marnie....would taking the Lauricidin be just as effective as taking the coconut oil?

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I believe the closer we get to Mother Nature's products...the better.

She "balances" them.

We think we spot a single beneficial ingredient and try to use just it alone..but it often doesn't work...all by itself.

Stick as close to natural as possible.

How about a nice apple?


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SForsgren
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I am suprised that this was listed in the Rife book as a good option but no one here is using. Is anyone using this product?

Thanks!


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I believe Mo uses coconut oil...and has found it beneficial.
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I think Troutscout has used it.
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I've used Lauricidin for several years, and have used extra virgin coconut oil.

There is some question as to whether a Lauricidin is completely metabolized (and therefore is systemic) or not, but IMO and in the opinions of others, we beleive at least a large percentage gives a systemic (and beneficial) effect.

Extra virgin coconut oil is almost idential IMO.

There are several papers on lauric acid
and it's damaging action on yeast and lipid coated bacteria.

I think Lauricidin and extra virin coconut oil are excellent supplements with anti-microbial properties.

Barb


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Lauricidin and its benefits have been discussed on this board years ago and ever since.

It is just too bad that the search functions do not work - at least they do not work for me.

We now prefer Organic Virgin Coconut Oil by far. It is a great food - we use/alternate it with butter on a good piece of bread with a sprinkle of whole salt on it and I use it in cooking and baking.

It has been a valuable food for centuries - now it is labled a "dietary supplement" so that you have to pay state sales taxes when purchasing it locally!!!!

Aside from that, it helps you lose weight; good when Crohn's, IBS and assorted digestive disorders are a problem; for healthy thyroid function; energy booster, and is great to help when diabetes is a problem.

I use it as a face cream and a cream all over, incl. hair. It works great as deodorant if you let it penetrate a minute before you put your clothes on. It's antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal. It's wonderful for your dogs and cats and other pets.

If you want to read all the details, go to www.tropicaltraditions.com. We prefer the NOW Virgin Organic brand which I buy for $4.something for 12 oz. via the internet, no S&H.

If you use it extensively and are still holding heavy metals in your body, beware that most critters are holding toxic metals in their cell walls; so be prepared to prevent redistribution of them! Don't call it a herxheimer - it is heavy metals in motion as much as anything else.

Take care.



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GIGI you said
"If you use it extensively and are still holding heavy metals in your body, beware that most critters are holding toxic metals in their cell walls; so be prepared to prevent redistribution of them! Don't call it a herxheimer - it is heavy metals in motion as much as anything else."

I suffer from "the stupidd" and dont understand what you are saying.

I use organic virgin coconut every day but would not say I use it extensively. Does the above statement mean it is good to use if you have heavy metals or bad to use?



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Sofy, I would assume that you take a number of remedies/agents/foods/drinks that you take because they also have an effect on the bacterial, viral, fungal, parasitical load of the body and in general to stimulate or turn on your immune system again.

If these remedies/agents/foods/drinks are effective at stimulating your system in the expected way, you will have a die-off of one sort or another, or of all of them: dead proteins and heavy metals/chemicals.

We know with certainty that candida hold heavy metals in their cell walls; we know that parasites, where viruses also live, are loaded with heavy metals.

That means any die-off will set heavy metals free and moving through the body. I have tried for years to tell people that not all herxes are caused by the dead proteins/dead critters. Metals in motion cause a multitude of symptoms, neurological symptoms as well as pain. If you welcome a herxheimer, think again!!!!

It is great to take all these foods, including Coconut Oil, as long as you are on the lookout for the metals that are being freed by any die-off via the coconut oil or lauricidin and any of the other meds you are taking. You have to have the mop-up agents on board, such as a c l e a n chlorella or other neurotoxin eliminators that you tolerate. If you don't, freeing your body of heavy metals, which are serious/deadly neurotoxins, is not taking place on its own.

I am very certain that because this is being ignored by so many, getting well for many remains just a hope and is not really happening. Because as long as you have heavy metals in your body, microorganisms (Lyme, etc. etc. etc.) have their breeding ground and a chance to replicate.

You will have to realize that as long as we live in this environment, heavy metals accumulate, and unless you are one of the few whose body can dispose of it readily every day of your life, you need to take special action, or eventually we will just get ill.

When we use the KMT22 or KMT240 just for maintainance for all environmental exposures
and to avoid any microorganism overgrowth, and the replication of microorganisms, we always take into consideration that metals will be set free and we take chlorella or betasitosterol, etc.

Heavy metals are everywhere today, in our food and in the air (mercury in eggs, mercury in beef, mercury in chicken, mercury in flu vaccines, mercury in the earth on farms) - not speaking of amalgam fillings now - or of the mercury that is still in your body from the fillings you had removed and replaced, but never gotten out. Or the mercury your mother passed on to you or the mercury you got via the childhood vaccinations, etc.

Has anyone noticed with the recent news about cancer victims - no one talked environment or had an comment on why even some non-smokers get cancer. I can tell you with absolute certainly that the doctor who treated us and who has treated many cancer/Lyme patients, not one patient did not have a heavy metal toxicity as an underlying cause. It is a reality that no one wants to talk about loud.

Take care.


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Gigi,

As always, great information and thank you. Your comment about coconut oil and weight loss is of interest. I see that 6 tbsp is about 900+ calories. Does your comment mean that I don't need to cut that same number of calories elsewhere to avoid weight gain when I increase the coconut oil? I got mine from www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com.

Thanks


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Thank you Gigi
Ive seen a holistic dentist and had my root canal out and he says he can take out my few amalgams in 2 sessions.

Ive just started a new abx regeim and it knocked me for a loop so have been afraid to call and get it done till I feel a little better. Dont want to overtax my system.

When you say clean Chorella how does one know what source is clean. Thanks


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I will be interested to see Gigi's response as she is well-studied, but in terms of Chorella, I am using a product called NDF from BioRay.

Scott www.BetterHealthGuy.com


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Coconut oil contains Medium Chain Fatty Acids, or medium chain triglycerides and any weight loss is related to the length of the fatty acid chains. They are different than the longer chain fatty acids found in other plant-based oils. Most vegetable oils (canola, safflower, etc etc) are composed of longer chain fatty acids, or triglycerides. Longer chain triglycerides are known to be stored in the body as fat. Medium chain tryglyderides are burned for energy.

If you will listen to today's news, City or State of New York is trying to discourage using plant oils, such as canola, safflower, etc. because simply stated - people are just plain too fat. I haven't figured out yet what they are recommending instead. Wonder whether they are going to come up with a man-made oil again soon!

Research shows that coconut oil leads to better metabolism and thus to weight loss - the shape of the body tends to change - lose the ring around the middle. People are not hungry all day.

Low Fat diets do not work and are detrimental to good health. "Light" diets are even worse.

"One of the reasons the long chain fatty acids in vegetable oils are so damaging to the thyroid is that they oxydize quickly and become rancid (rancidity is also carcinogenic). Food manufacturers know about this propensity toward rancidity and therefore highly refine their vegetable oils. Considerable research has shown that trans fattt acids, present when vegetable oils are highly refined (hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated) are especiallyt damaging to cell tissue and can habe a negative effect on the thyroid as well as health in general. Because the longer chain fatty acids are deposited in the cells more often as rancid and oxydizing fat, impairment of the conversion of thyroid hormone T4 to T3 occurs (hypothyroidism). To create the enzymes needed to convert fats to energy, T4 must be converted to T3.

That's just one reason. Literature abounds on this subject.


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i have used Lauricidin at different times...and....I see results each time.

I am one of those that beleives in getting close to natures way on stuff...however....this is one of those cases where I beleive that you should combine the concentrated form of Lauricidin with Coconut Oil. (I get mine from Tropical traditions)

Its 'soap' effect on the outside of ALL cells in our body helps our immune system actually penetrate these 'bad' cells and dispose of them.

And....yes...Gigi is correct about the metal release and mop up.

VERY Important.

I bel;eive that we couldn't get along all that well around hear without Gigi and Marnie.

Trout

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Agree. They are both amazing. I saw a post today that Marnie had signed off...
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