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I've heard the term cavitations for years, but do not really underatand what they are. Can you enlighten me? Thanks.
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A cavity is a hole in the teeth. A cavitation is a hole in the jawbone. The bone around the cavitation gets mushy like oatmeal and it becomes a breeding ground for microorganisms, such as Lyme, viruses, fungi, mold, etc.
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Awesome website Gigi!!! That is excellent information. For some reason, I did not appreciate the severity of the problem, until I saw the pictures.
Our dentist has recommended that my son have his wisdom teeth out. After seeing this.....Maybe not. Can this be done safely? Also any dentist who can do this in the Pacific NW?
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Thanks for the great website Gigi, and thanks to all for the discussion.
Has anyone done removed the cavitations with surgery??
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SAK, let me put it this way: there are very few patients of Dr. K. that are chronically ill who do not have to undergo a cavitation procedure of one sort or another.
Most patients that I have gotten to know over time had to do it to find improvement. It is usually not instantly, because it took years to penetrate other parts of the body and it takes time to get it out from these pockets. These toxins are often found in the brain.
And breast cancers are connected to the same toxins.
They are carcinogens.
Take care.
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Can you explain what a cavitation procedure is and who you would see for this?? A holistic dentist that specializes in removal of Mercury fillings? Thanks!
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Sak, how were you cabitations detected? Panarex?
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Oh my! I didn't even know such a thing existed as getting holes in the jaw bone!
I am 29 and never even had a cavity so I can't imagine what a horrible time you must be having with this.
I hope your surgery fixes you up good as knew... and a very speedy recovery.
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I'd get a CAT scan to make sure I really had it. Also, a doctor told me if a person has those they can get it injected. Not all mainstream dentists do that, they like to operate. From there if the injection doesn't work they would operate. I would try the injection first before something that big! Good luck, that sounds ouchy.
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I had a cavitat scan done. I read up on it and that's the best tool to find them.
Then, when you go to an oral surgeon that can interpret these type of scans, he/she can do a good job to clean it up with the cavitat scan as a guide.
I have a holistic dentist (removed my mercury fillings too) who has a cavitat scanner. She did the scan on me to see what's going on at my wisdom tooth extraction site. I have never heard of injection therapy. What is injected? Ozone?
Now, she recommended a good oral surgeon who does these sort of surgeries a lot and has ample experience with interpreting the cavitat scan.
I'm not looking forward to the trauma of surgery with my health being so yucky from Lyme...
But I guess I have to save my jawbone! There's not much of it left in certain wisdom tooth extraction spots.
Maybe that's contributing to the TMJ I have. I wonder, does bone grow back???
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Gigi says there are very few patients of Dr. K. that are chronically ill who do not have to undergo a cavitation procedure of one sort or another.
I think this is an important statement.
Take an example someone who has removed their amalgam fillings, no root canals.
However Dr K would say get checked out for cavitations. I think he is dead right. These internal toxins need to be addressed.
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I have no root canals, removed any mercury fillings, but I do have cavitations.
What scares me is that I read that some have done cavitation surgery 3 times to clean out the infection and still!
I'm scared to pieces that I won't survive the stress of surgery the first time around. If that doesn't work...yikes...is it worth doing surgery then?
What about those injections that blackbirdsings mentioned? What are they about???
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Most people, sick and well, have cavitations in their jawbone. If you don't have pain in your jaw then you don't have an infection.
My philosophy is why risk a surgery when your immunune system is already diminished. If you get an infection from the surgery then you will be in real trouble. Bone infections are hard to get rid of.
This, of course, is only my humble opinion and will differ from many others (so don't kill me neagtive posts, please). Hiker
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Everything that I've read so far says that cavitations are a silent infection, so there's no pain really.
I have no pain, but the scan shows that I barely have any bone left on one side of my mouth from the infection.
Honestly, I don't want to go through surgery. Gosh-- I never even thought of infection from surgery! And yes, you're absolutely right: my immune system is already in pieces from Lyme.
I'm just hoping for improvement. If I have to do this for the better, I guess, I will...
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For years I had TMJ, sinusitis, bronchitis and tonsilitis.
Then...more stuff.
I always said that my jaw felt...hollow.
When the end of my IV came along the only areas...besides my brain, that had pain were in my upper back quadrant of right draw, and down by my appendix.
After they pulled the IV...guess where the pain was most intent? You got it.
Eventually the infecteion went back out to the rest of me.
Looking back...when I had ALL of my wisdom teeth removed....all four, I went out that night and tasted chicken nuggets for the first time.
Now....ask me when the bulk of MY problems started.
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In my experience,getting cavitation surgery because it shows on a cavitat screening , is not the best way to go about it.
Many patients I saw had cavitation surgery done, by the best in the business, with poor if not worsening results to their health.
Its important to understand and address the areas that led to the creation of the problem in the first place. Most people that had surgery done and it went bad, had little preperation for it to turn out successfully.
often times the persons immune system is suppressed when they have lyme and other infections, the lymph system is not working properly, especialy in the jaw/throat area and their circulation into the jaw is not funtioning well. Oxygenation is low in the tissues,ect...
If the body cannot handle the toxins, necrosis and bugs in the jaw, then releasing them into a unprepared system is ill advised.
I have seen cavitation surgery create more problems than help when these areas are not addressed...
Also there are other methods for helping the body to deal with this problem..natural ways to build back the jaw bone, remove necrotic tissue and improve micro circulation...
Surgery in my opinion should be a last resort, not a first one for those that are too ill to handle it...
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Byron...........
Please fill me in.
I am considering a mag pulser at this time....along with Hyperbaric Chamber.
Trout
PS...AND more IV
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Hiker, you say
"Most people, sick and well, have cavitations in their jawbone. If you don't have pain in your jaw then you don't have an infection."
Sorry, Hiker, that is total misinformation.
The immune system will remain dysfunctional until the issue is addressed, if a person has such an issue. Many people do not have cavitations. Many chronically ill do. It's just one of the major reasons a person remains ill. It is not caused by Lyme. More likely the other way around -- Lyme found a perfect breeding ground.
Your opinion is important. But I do not want to have wasted years on this board by leaving the impression that this is not a very serious issue.
Dental toxins are carcinogens. How many, how long???????
The dental connection for me always was and is -- If you have tried a couple of years and have not been able to conquer this disease, pay attention to your mouth.
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What has been used in clinical situations may vary from person to person but the direction is the same...here are a few ideas of things that can be done...
Detox pathways open...colon,liver,kidneys,lymph..open colon first
Protect heart before procedure/after with antimicrobials or antibiotics,argentyn 25,ect....
lymph system draining well...possible options(homeopathic drainage, sanum remedies, lymph massage,herbals)
homeopathics for infection...matching infection in tooth/jaw...marshalls defenses of body, targets the toxins forelimination.
decrease necrotic tissue..serrepatase eats necrotic tissue as a example..also wobenzyme
improve circulation...red/infrared spectrum on jaw as well as alternating magnetic fields..shown to kill pathogens
remineralize...take good level of minerals before/after procedures...at micro levels...oligo or water oz,ect...
stimulate bone growth...l.e.d wavelength for bone used daily...feed with calcium found to regrow bone...3A
The above are some options to discuss with any practitioner that is knows about these type of therapies.
personally have seen cavitaions healed without surgery using infrared led/or laser and magnetic unit with some of the above...
if you have already done surgery then I would support the mandible with homeopathic sarcodes(build tissue/support tissue), hyperbaric is an option, serrepatase, led unit daily and magnetic unit, antimicrobials as tests... again suggest discussing any of these ideas with your practitioner...to see how they may benefit you...
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It's a given that the condition of a patient has to be right, or as close to it as possible, because it is not ever right as infection is contaminating the body more and more.
Your physician/practitioner and good oral surgeon checks for these pitfalls before he gets to work.
You won't be dancing the next day.
That's the time when the dental toxins, the metals, the thioethers, the mercaptans are starting to move, or hope to find their way out of the body. That's when the mercury gets into circulation. The microorganisms are being disturbed. These toxins have over the years had lots of time not only to stay in the jawbone, but literally move anywhere in the body. That is the time when you need the expert help of your doctor to find every trick in the book to coax them out of the system.
The only way out is the way through. I have heard that a few times.
But you stopped the decay, the infection from spreading, and then it is cleanup time. There are many times when organs, tonsils, lymphatics need a push to keep on doing. They need lots of help.
Nobody ever said it is easy and that it costs nothing. If the sitting/waiting game gets you well, nothing is lost. On the other hand, you can waste a few years just waiting, just staying sick, not going anywhere.
When I was alerted to this problem, when I was very ill, I moved heaven and earth to get the earliest appointment from the oral surgeon right away. My husband waited almost three years before he did anything about it -- that delay caused him a fractured back with four months in a metal cage to heal, a burst appendix, a broken rib, a wheelchair and a lot, a lot more. I did not think he would ever make it. He got out of his wheelchair seven months after the dental intervention and started to walk again.
Find out what's holding you back. At least I gave you a clue where to start looking.
Take care.
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GiGi: Thanks for the web sites and insights.
Prior to my first (1998) oral surgeries to remove mandibular and maxillary osteonecrosis I had no pain. The surgery was helpful but not as thorough as it might have been (the DDS no longer practices).
I needed additional jaw surgeries in 1999, 2000 2002 and 2005 to remove osteomyelitis from wisdom tooth extraction sites. Those were preceded by severe pain.
When an MD advised cavitation surgery 2/98 I was nervous but once the dead and diseased bone was removed I felt SO MUCH better! 5/98 the MD who advised surgery said it saved my life. I believe he was correct. Prior to 4/98 jaw surgery when I tried to push past my fatigue, pain and paresis I fell like a puppet without strings. It was especially disconcerting to be away from home stretched out on the pavement or the floor, unable to move. It was also not fun being unable to breathe due to paresis.
After my 1998 oral surgery the paralysis seizures stopped. I believe it would be impossible to make headway against Lyme disease while harboring jawbone infections.
To those who jest: unless you know more about the subject than the surgeons and pathologists living and deceased who have distinguished themselves in this realm, I respectfully suggest that you find another topic for your mirth making.
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Bryon respectfully if after years of trying different remedies I think surgery needs to be addressed. If its rotton you cut it out, of course it can become rotton again but at least you have a chance. Don't you ever believe in surgery!
I agree with Gigi again!
Martin. Yep its certainly a hard road as you demonstrate. Did you ever have a Cavitat scan? What do you think of it? Did you have i.v. vitamin C? Any advice for newbies on this road?
I have got a cavitat scan in two weeks and despite no root canals or jaw pain I predict cavities aplenty and I intend to choose surgery.
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Its the jaw not the gut! Wallace Letter to the Editor of Townsend Letter for Doctors and Their Patients
Cavitations are Ignored by Dentists and Insurance Companies
Published in August/September issue
I have several comments re: the many dental articles that appeared in the June edition of your magazine. First, I would take issue with Drs. Barker and Meletis' claim that ``...if we cared as well for the rest of our bodies as we do our teeth, the health of humanity would be greatly improved.'' The good doctors appear to equate ``caring for our teeth'' with having bi-annual dental check-ups and recommended follow-up treatment. However, consider that these check-ups routinely expose patients to damaging ionizing radiation (Do a Google search on the work of Dr. John Gofman re: the relationship between conventional medical x-rays and cancer and heart disease). And, consider also that positive findings on x-ray and/or oral exam inevitably lead to treatment using invasive procedures that traumatize the teeth and jawbone, resulting ultimately in development of systemic disease. With regard to these considerations, one has to question the wisdom of calling the traditional 6-month dental check-up a ``preventive'' measure.
My special area of interest in dentistry is the jawbone condition that has become popularly known as ``cavitations'' (osteonecrosis and/or chronic osteomyelitis), a condition characterized by bone loss, poor blood supply and sometimes, chronic infection. This little-known but extremely prevalent, invisible and often silent condition results from trauma of any sort to the jawbone. For most of us, the bulk of that trauma comes from standard dental care, starting with the simple filling of a cavity in a tooth. Regardless of whether the filling material is toxic or ``biocompatible,'' the use of a high-speed drill to remove the decayed portion of the tooth will lead to its ultimate demise from pulp damage, according to German dentist, Ralf T�rk. In a lecture given in May of 1987 to the American Association of Biological Dentistry, Dr. T�rk referred to the high-speed drill used routinely in dentistry as a ``time bomb whose devastating effects have been completely underestimated by most of our colleagues.'' He maintains that use of such a drill results in the formation of cracks deep in the enamel of the tooth, cracks that allow bacteria and their toxins, as well as macromolecules, to penetrate the dentin. Dr. T�rk described studies by a Swiss colleague, which demonstrated that ``after 5 to 20 seconds of milling or grinding with turbines, an increase in pulp temperature ... caused irreversible damage in 60% of the pulps examined.'' In addition to such thermally-induced damage, T�rk adds damage from negative pressure. He builds a convincing case against the use of high-speed drills, a case that has largely fallen on deaf ears in dental circles.
Often the small filling becomes larger and larger over time as decay spreads. When finally too much of the tooth structure has been destroyed to allow it to survive intact, a crown or cap is generally placed, following the whittling down of the tooth to a mere nub. Prepping teeth for crowns and bridges means more trauma to the tooth (and hence to the jawbone) from high-speed drilling. Once the crown or bridge is placed, all is well (or so it seems) until and unless the patient complains of pain. Sometimes x-rays will show an abscess; other times they will show nothing, but if pain persists, root canal treatment is generally recommended.
Once again, regardless of the toxicity or biocompatibility of the material used to fill root canals, the procedure itself is inherently damaging to the entire body, as the late Weston Price, DDS, so elegantly demonstrated decades ago with his classic animal experiments. (When he implanted root canal-filled teeth extracted from sick individuals under the skin of healthy rabbits, those rabbits developed the same diseases as their tooth donors, and ultimately died from them.) The ``safe'' root canal is an oxymoron. There is no safe way to keep a dead organ in the body, no way to sterilize the miles and miles of dentin tubules in the root canal and keep them sterile.
When root canals fail (as is so often the case), the next dental intervention is tooth extraction. This creates more trauma to the jawbone, trauma that is sure to result in formation of a cavitation (if one has not already developed) if any portion of the periodontal ligament (which holds tooth to bone) remains in the socket. You can bet this will happen if the surgical site isn't properly cleaned out with the dental burr to assure total detachment of the ligament. Any portion of it that is left behind will form a barrier to blood flow and to new bone growth as I've discussed in my book Beyond Amalgam. The bone cavity (cavitation) that forms (or enlarges) as a result of an improperly done extraction will serve as an incubating chamber for microbes, whose toxins will ultimately gain systemic access, causing all manner of illness.
Once a tooth is extracted, more dental intervention is needed to ``fill the hole.'' The worst possible choice is an implant, which poses big-time trauma to the jawbone. Opting for a bridge will damage the tooth structure of two perfectly good adjacent teeth and can potentially set the whole process of bone deterioration into motion once again. It is my belief that the safest option in the face of multiple tooth loss is a removable appliance made of biocompatible dental materials.
All along the way - from first dental filling to crown and bridge to root canal filling to extraction to implant - our jawbones are being traumatized physically from high-speed drilling. Add to this the trauma of ischemia-inducing x-rays, plus toxins (and sometimes vasoconstriction) from dental anesthetics (Google Dr. Alfred Nickel, DDS, to read about the neurotoxic and carcinogenic effects of aniline-based anesthetics), and the plot thickens. Factor in the disruption of energy flow in acupuncture meridians running through traumatized tooth sites, the toxic effect of fluoride and heavy metals, in addition to other harmful dental materials used routinely in dentistry - AND the systemic access ultimately gained by these toxins - and we can clearly see why well-informed professionals are beginning to believe that death begins in the mouth, rather than at the other end of the GI tract as has long been taught in holistic circles.
I was dismayed to see not one mention of the word ``cavitation'' in your recent dental issue. No conscientious practitioner can afford to ignore this condition! Its importance is right up there with mercury and root canals (neither discussed to any significant degree in your dental issue): Cavitations cause every bit as much suffering and systemic disease, although the patient and his dentist may be totally unaware of it. The June issue of your magazine is replete with discussions of natural medicines to be used in support of oral health, but such discussion is irrelevant in the face of cavitations, an ischemic condition that prevents effective delivery of any type of medicine to affected area(s) of the mouth.
Those few dentists who are aware of cavitations - and the fewer still who are treating them - too often avoid mention of the ``C'' word, for fear of repercussions from dental boards. The only reference to cavitations I found in your June dental issue was an indirect one by Dr. Andrea Brockman. She is ``right on'' with her comment about the jawbone: ``...What other bone can have osteomyelitis [cavitations] and deteriorating joints and not be covered by dental or medical insurance?'' Excellent point!
Insurance companies today are following the lead of Aetna and denying claims for diagnosis of cavitations by FDA-approved bone sonography (the Cavitat) and surgical treatment of the condition based upon QuackWatch pronouncements of illegitimacy. Bob Jones, developer of the Cavitat, has responded by filing a federal RICO (racketeering) suit against Aetna and Quackbusters. This could be a pivotal case for patients and practitioners alike. Follow the progress on Tim Bolen's site, http://www.quackpotwatch.org, and read more about cavitations on mine: www.healthcarealternatives.net.
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Please give some consideration to hyperbaric oxygen therapy. It has been used effectively, and in many cases your insurance provider will pay for the diagnosis of osteomyelitis...Infection of the bone.
The therapy is simple and can only benefit you. It will also kill off the lyme now that BB can not survive at the prescribed pressures for osteomyelitis...This may be a blessing in disquise..(sp)
Hyperbaric 02 can be an adjunctive therapy to your antibiotic therapy, it can make all the difference in your progress.
Feel free to contact me with any questions. If you choose to have the HBOT I can try to help you find an approved facility. Please email me privately.
best regards,
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There was an oral surgeon two tried to help his patients with HBOT, because he was overwhelmed at the number of patients that kept coming and coming for surgeries. He had every HBOT chamber known. He no longer talks about HBOT and he no longer owns the facility. It did not work for what he wanted it to work. It works for certain problems. Diseased jawbone is not one of them.
I was one of the patients who tried the HBOT - the toxins created by my jaw infections spread out, spread out, and I was worse for a long time after HBOT. The neurotoxins really hit my brain then. Yes, maybe HBOT kills a few critters, but we are talking about a lot more than Lyme critters here. We are talking serious neurotoxins that can move on into areas where we not necessarily want them to go. The worst - into the brain.
Don't expect to be well when you get out of that dental chair. You just sort of put out the fire --- and some of the bugs and some of the toxins are on the move now. No surgery is going to remove all. You need antibiotics before the surgery and after the surgery. No doubt about it. Hope they still work for you when you really need them.
And some oral surgeons are better than others, that is certain. There is less than a handful that I would trust to do the job right. There are also very few practitioners I would trust at this point in my life.
Sometimes you have to pull out the strong weapons. A necrotic jawbone is one of them - until we find something better that works as well. I know exactly what Neil is talking about. My husband was on the floor totally unable to move even one limb. . I had to pull him, on his belly, by the arms from one room to the other! No kidding - removing necrotic bone with homeopathics!!!!!! If I had to face it again, I would be on a supersonic jet to get it over with - the quicker the better.
We are not only talking neurotoxins created by Lyme and Company here; rather we are talking about thioethers and mercaptans, created by dead teeth and cavitations that are carcinogenic. There is no worse toxin around - it is worse than mercury, arsenic, lead, etc. And if you wait long enough before you do anything about the infections, you are heading for worse - the unspeakable.
The only thing so far that has shown some results, for minor jaw conditions, are the ozone injections into the jawbone. You need quite a few of them. Even after surgical removal of the infected bone, ozone injections into the jawbone are still beneficial and is often done again and again. But I have not run into any solution yet that would avoid a surgical intervention if the disease has progressed enough.
A good oral surgeon can help with the decision. Whether other therapies and more money can alleviate the problem or not.
I think I told you that the man who today is doing the most advanced research in this field himself had to suffer through 30some surgeries to get his life back. He did. But for years he was fighting ALS symptoms. He had this work done over ten years ago. I met him again just recently and he is doing very well. He invented the CAVITAT. He gave us a several-hour lecture on the subject, and he wasn't kidding - rotten teeth and rotten jawbone turn into cancer if you wait long enough. Every research documented and ongoing. www.altcorp.org
The CAVITAT helps with diagnosis if a dentist can't. You still need to have a surgeon who knows what to do when he sees the real thing, what to take out, etc. "Most don't take all the diseased bone out." These words by my oral surgeon who teaches the work.
Byron2, after my experience with my family and that of many chronically ill patients, I would not want to take a chance at "rebuilding diseased bone". That's the time when I think logic should set in. As Dr. K. says, you don't do homepathics when you have a broken arm. You have the arm set. The jaw is badly diseased - you have to stop the hemorrhaging. But as you say, the preparation if there is a chance that you can get the lymphatics to flow or the organs to regenerate fast enough should be there. Most often, people are too sick to even accomplish that and then it's time to either do now or don't and face the consequences. For me it was -- do it now. I literally had to carry my husband there because he should have listened to our doctor and done it a lot earlier. Waiting and months of preparing is often not a solution or a choice.
Take care.
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Thanks so much for this discussion. You have been so very helpful. I appreciate your experiences.
I just hope I can handle the surgery. I have to build my strength with some vitamins or something. For the wonderful pain, is sedation used? How do they numb that area?
I'm scheduled Monday for my consultation with the oral surgeon. I'm thinking that the infection is just making Lyme more difficult to fight, like Gigi said. I hope surgery can eventually help. Fingers crossed!
Again, many thanks
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I think Julia was suggesting HBOT to speed healing, post-extraction. It will increase blood flow and oxygen to the area. It is known to speed recovery from any kind of surgery.
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Oxygenbabe, yes, it is a good modality if used for a specific problem. It is not when a patient has multiple infections and toxicity and sensitivity problems, as most Lyme people do. It can turn very ugly and not be a pleasant or healing experience.
It should be used very selectively and the timing is very important.
Take care.
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