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I had Cat Scratch Fever when I was 5yo. Very high fevers, swollen glands under my arms that had to be excised and drained and stitched.
This is about the same time my mother said I started having odd aches and pains, extreme shyness.
Any connection?
I never had a bulleye rash that I recall.
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Bartonella is actually cat scratch fever. However, if you got it from the bite of a tick or flea, it is worse than if you were actually scratched by a cat.
At least that is what I've been told here several years ago.
Have you recently been tested for bart?
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YES- it is a frequent coinfection of Lyme disease.
BEST PAPER ON BARTONELLA in humans!!!! I highly rec'd reading it!!!!!!
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No I have not been tested for Bart yet. I haven't even seen the llmd yet. I just have the Positive WB from IgeneX.
I too read something a long time ago about Cat Scratch and Lyme but could never find it again, so I was just wondering about it today.
I'm 36 now. My mother tells me I turned into a totally different child when I got Cat Scratch at 5.
Another interesting question would be ... If I had antibodies for Cat Scratch would I automatically test positive for Bart?
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There are MANY MANY strains of human pathogenic Bartonella and labs usually only test for ONE strain- B henselae-
There is TONS of B Elizabethae out there in humans!!!
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So is B henselae the bad one and B Elizabethae the not so serious one?????
I'm not understanding the verbage on the links, bad lyme brain.
I'll have my dh read it and try to explain it to me.
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Ok... I did a search here and found a ton of cat scratch fever stuff.
Just for my sanity...
If one has had cat scratch fever will it automatically mean they will be positive for Bart?
And if so do you always have to treat it?
Thanks
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I've always wondered if I got a positive from F's Lab for Bart (which I did), does that mean it's the tick-borne Bart or Cat Scratch? Does it mean a specific one from that lab?
Anyone know?
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If you test negative for Bartonella Henselae it does not mean you don't have one of the many otehr human pathogenic strains!!!
Re Fry it is direct microscopy, right? So it would just be Bartonella- for Bartonella Fry may be best bet- because it would do any Bart organism not just 1 strain-
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According to my LLMD Cat Scratch Fever and bartonella caused by a tick are NOT one and the same.
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