disturbedme
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I've been taking the capsules for quite a long time and never really noticed a herx off them ever. I still take them, but haven't noticed anything.
The difference with my capsules though are they are not TOA free, so maybe that's why I didn't herx from them? The Buhner protocol though writes about how TOA free or not isn't as big a deal as it's made out to be. But, I never herxed from the capsules.
I have the liquid that IS TOA free, but haven't started it yet.
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adamm
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Wait--did you get your capsules from the Nutramedix website,
where I got mine? It didn't say anything on there about
the solution containing a different substance...
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disturbedme
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Adam - No, my capsules were NOT from Nutramedix (but my liquid that I haven't tried yet was). If you got them there, then they most likely are TOA free.
I haven't tried the TOA free form yet.
Good luck!
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sparkle7
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Seems like the liquid extract may be more potent. If you got it from Nutramedix - it's probably good. They seem to be a reputable company.
I haven't gotten to the samento yet. I'm still working on the cumanda.
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Yes, Cat's Claw worked for me and my wife. We tried many different brands in- cluding the TOA free and found that the RainTree encapsulated Cat's Claw seemed to work better than others.
The Rule of Thumb that we followed in taking Cat's Claw or any of the other herbs that caused a die-off of Bb was: Herx to the Max. In other words take as much as you can tolerate and when the die-off lessens then increase your intake. This is the same principle that Dr. Jemsek has used with much success in treating Chronic Lyme patients.
I am not a physician but a nutritionist. Our herbal treatment is posted here on Lyme- Net. Just search JWF. The herbs that we used worked for Lyme disease and Morgellons. We are happily symptom free.
Here is a short list: Cat's Claw, Olive Leaf Extract, Kyolic formula 103, Teasel, Isatis and Forsythia (6 &18), Grape Seed Extract, Oregano, Pau d'Arco, Sea Buckthorn, Sarsaparilla, Alfalfa, Magnesium, a safe Silver, NAC (Cysteine), and Triphala.
Blue Skies.......John
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adamm
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A herx would be nice...I'm in my fourth month of treatment
since and haven't had one yet I'm pretty sure I'm an HLA-DR4
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I'm pretty sure I'm an HLA-DR4
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