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atheana
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Hi to all!
I ordered a free kit, thru Igenex and had my boyfriends blood drawn.This is what came back.

Igenex IGM results Negative
CDC/NYS results Negative

IGM
31kda IND
34kda IND
39KDA IND
41 ++

83-93 IND

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IGG Nagative

30 +
31 IND
39 IND
41 ++
45 +

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What does all this mean when it shows this,but is then saying it's negative.

He has alot of aches and pains,and also jerks alot in his sleep.

Did I give it to him?

Confused.
Atheana [confused]

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Wow. I'm having my husband tested this month as well. He has a few symptoms that are worrisome.

I'm really starting to believe that most, if not all, people have lyme and have no idea whatsoever. Either they have some symptoms that aren't major and live that way without a clue their entire lives or they have some symptoms but their immune system is still doing its job and keeping the lyme at bay...

What did your boyfriend think of the results?!

I'm curious, what are all of his symptoms? Just the few you listed? I'm just really curious now since I'm having my husband tested this month and he also only has a few symptoms but are starting to worry me.

PS - It's very unlikely that you GAVE it to him. No one will know for sure, but it's more likely that he was bitten by a tick (or mosquito or flea), etc. Does he have pets, does he go for hikes, go to the park a lot, etc.?

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Definitely could be Lyme. Most LLMD's would treat with a test like that.

The IND's are a weak positive. If those bands were a +, the test would convert to a POSITIVE.

He has several Lyme specific bands. Read here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=042077

83-93 is the DNA of the Bb.

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hi,
I just spoke to Dr.H at Igenex and he said that my boyfriend should reconfirm with a special test,I think called epitot # 488 and 489. So that's what we will do.


The only sym my boyfriend has is aches and pains all over,but not everyday.

He did say that back in 1975 he went camping in British Columbia and shortly after came down with flu like symptoms,that lasted years.

They said it was mono.

He stays fit,by working out at the gym and sailing.

He also went to Westchester county every summer,when he was a kid.

Who knows..

Thanks to all.
Atheana [Smile]

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Geneal
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Go down a list of Lyme symptoms.

The waxing and waning of symptoms is common with Lyme.

I was shocked to find I had more than 50 when I first did the list. [Eek!]

Maybe find a LLMD first and see what he/she says.

Lyme is a clinical diagnosis.

Serology only can support that.

Hugs,

Geneal

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I think there is an explanation on the Igenex testing which states the criteria for Positive.

Look for something on the results that says:

Igenex IgM WB is considered postive if two or more o th the double starred bands are present.

Igenex IgG WB is considered postive if two or more of the double starred bands are present.

On my test the double starred bands were
**23-25
**31
**34
**39
**41
**83-93

So if two or more of those were postive than the test would read positive.
Your friend had an IND on one of his-which my LLMD considers positive.

Besides- Lyme Disease can also be a clinical diagnosis-even with supposedly negative
bloodwork.

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I seem to be repeating people here. Well, let's just say-re-inforcing what they are saying.
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Lyme Disease Symptoms List
1. Unexplained fevers, sweats, chills, or flushing
2. Unexplained weight change--loss or gain
3. Fatigue, tiredness, poor stamina
4. Unexplained hair loss
5. Swollen glands: list areas____
6. Sore throat
7. Testicular pain/pelvic pain
8. Unexplained menstrual irregularity
9. Unexplained milk production: breast pain
10.Irritable bladder or bladder dysfunction
11.Sexual dysfunction or loss of libido
12.Upset stomach
13.Change in bowel function-constipation, diarrhea
14.Chest pain or rib soreness
15.Shortness of breath, cough
16.Heart palpitations, pulse skips, heart block
17.Any history of a heart murmur or valve prolapse?
18.Joint pain or swelling: list joints_____________
19.Stiffness of the joints, neck, or back
20.Muscle pain or cramps
21.Twitching of the face or other muscles
22.Headache
23.Neck creeks and cracks, neck stiffness, neck pain
24.Tingling, numbness, burning or stabbing sensations, shooting pains
25.Facial paralysis (Bell's Palsy)
26.Eyes/Vision: double, blurry, increased floaters, light sensitivity
27.Ears/Hearing: buzzing, ringing, ear pain, sound sensitivity
28.lncreased motion sickness, vertigo, poor balance
29.Lightheadedness, wooziness
30.Tremor
31.Confusion, difficulty in thinking
32.Diffculty with concentration, reading
33.Forgetfuiness, poor short term memory
34.Disorientation: getting lost, going to wrong places
35.Difficulty with speech or writing
36.Mood swings, irritability, depression
37.Disturbed sleep-too much, too little, early awakening
38.Exaggerated symptoms or worse hangover from alcohol

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