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I have been feeling crappy. I am not on abx right now but detoxing and doing herbs, and supps to build my body etc..
I went to my muscle tester/chiropractor and told her I have been feeling badly... So she whipped out her testing kits and I tested strongly for formadelhyde... ????
So the plan is to detox my liver more aggresivley... BUT where did this come from? I dont' use chemicals in my house, we are basically a green/organic household.
Could it be from my past years of smoking that the formaldehyde is now coming out of deep tissues and making me feel more toxic??
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I just ordered the air qual + kit from INX labs which tests for formaldehyde among other things. I have not used so I can't say how good it is but I was worried about environmental toxins as well and wanted to investigate. Cheapest way is at-home testing at first. If find problems then maybe bring someone in or send out for anaylsis.
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Perhaps muscle testing is not always accurate? Possibility?
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formaldehyde is also used to "set" colors in fabrics. Always wash clothes, bed sheets etc. before using them. Nailpolish sometimes has formaldehyde in it. -p
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Seekhelp... I know you have had a lot of trouble lately with this kind of testing, etc... Maybe it is not always accurate but right now it is the only thing that is helping me
. I have no LLMD anymore for various reasons that I cannot post in an open forum. I have a chiropractor who is trying to help me the best way she knows how and that is with energetic testing, herbs, nutrition and adjustemsnts... She works with a lot of lyme patients and to me says alot about her character...SHe is not out to make a buck and does NOT push treatments on you.. she is very fair and understanding.
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Peedie-- Thank you! I can rule out nail polish... this is very interesting indeed...
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UnExpectedHills,
By no means was I trying to attack the character/genuineness of your practicioner. If this person is helping you, wonderful. I was just throwing out the possibility that perhaps it's a false reading if the likelihood of you having this poisoning is remote based on your exposure, career, past experiences lab work, etc.
It's naive for any one of us to believe muscle testing is flawless. We sure don't have that faith in standard medicine when it comes to Lyme/co-inf blood labs. Nothing is for sure. We always need to question stuff. Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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I am deathly sensitive to formaldehyde and went into shock, bleeding from both ends, when we bought a new sofa once, so I have really had to learn to watch out for this.
I don't know if you wear makeup or not, but the preservative in it is formaldehyde. You should wait at least three months to wear new makeup so it will outgass. Of course, that takes away the protection from bacteria growing in the makeup, so it's a trade off.
Formaldehyde hides under several other names, about seven in all.
In makeup the formaldehyde is usually listed as Quaternium, with a number after it, ie. "quaternium 15".
Other names formaldehyde hides under are diazyldinylurea and isodiazyldinylurea. There are more, but I can't remember them all.
You should be able to find a list on the web and then read all your personal product labels to find out if it's in there.
Anything with glue will have formaldehyde unless indicated otherwise, ie. laminate flooring, plywood, etc.
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Seek-- I wasnt harping on ya!!! I agree with you that not EVERYTHING is 100%.... No argument there
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Thank you Klutzo very important to know. I am sorry that happened to you... I dont understand why this is allowed.... It angers me.
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I have had mixed experiences with muscle testing - I think it depends a lot on the practicioner
I have had some amazing results that looking back make me think, wow that practioner was right on target,
but also I had an extremely negative experience with a particular practioner
where I was going by the results of muscle testing vs. what was obvious (that I was relapsing big time)and needed more intensive treatment than what was coming up via muscle testing
So, just thought I would share my experience. I believe muscle testing can be a very useful tool, but for me it has not always been 100%
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Loonie and seek took my comment wrong.... If you read again all I am saying is that right now it is the ONLY thing that is helping me... I wasnt being defensive in any way... and I am also a skeptic... a natural questioner....
So please know that I was in no way shape or form being harsh or defensive in my reply....
I agree that nothing is foolproof
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Here is a more complete list. I spelled two of these wrong in my last post! Lyme brain, sorry.
The article I found this in also said to beware of those new anti-wrinkle clothes.....they are loaded with it.
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******I am deathly sensitive to formaldehyde and went into shock, bleeding from both ends, when we bought a new sofa once, so I have really had to learn to watch out for this.*******
That does not surprises me.
It was Spring 2005 when I bought a new soffa and I liked it so much and felt aslept that NIGHT in that soffa.
At 2am ( just when the body liver need to detoxify) I woke up like somebody pocked me and went to the BATHROON with severe diarea and passed out in 3 minutes and was pale as dead person .My blood preassure went down tremendously and 911 was called.
Ended up on IV and my papers from Emergency room were specified " toxic " they could not exsplain it .YES I felt that soffa smelled bed and NOW I know it made me toxic as I was already toxic.In 30 september 2005 I ended up NUMB from HEAD to toe...So yes it is every where....we are so exsposed...
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Klutzo - Thanks so much for the list of other names for formaldehyde!!!
So I'm sitting at my desk and check out the lotion bottle - gets the all clear. BUT the Flex-all 454 for muscle ache - Diazolidinyl Urea is listed in the middle of the ingredient list!!!
I found this when I looked up if Imidiazolidinyl Urea and diasolidinyl Urea are the same - yes. from wikipedia: It is used in many cosmetics, skin care products, shampoos and conditioners, as well as a wide range of products including bubble baths, baby wipes and household detergents. Diazolidinyl urea is found in the commercially available preservative Germaben.
I'm going home and checking everything! Anyone else find these in common items? -p
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Do you know what kind of insulation is in your home?
The only insulation that I believe is currently on the market today that is formaldehyde free is the building insulation that is manufactured by Johns Manville. They have been making this insulation for years and are the front leader in this type.
Insulation particles get into our homes very easily.
You can purchase this insulation at Home Depot.
Don't know if your problem is from this, but for some ppl it is from the insulation.
Hope this helps,
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There are ingredients in cosmetics and food that release formaldehyde and chloroform.
Aspartame turns into formaldehyde.
ASPARTAME marketed as 'NutraSweet', 'Equal', and 'Spoonful
Here's a little bit of an article.
The Trocho study demonstrated following aspartame ingestion, significant amounts of formaldehyde accumulate in the tissues.
Formaldehyde is known to bind strongly to proteins and nucleic acids, forming adducts that are extremely difficult to eliminate through normal metabolic pathways.
They demonstrated that labeled methanol (as formaldehyde) accumulated in high concentrations in the liver (50%) and in lower, but substantial, concentrations in the kidney, adipose tissue, brain and retina.
Within the cell, they found large amounts located within the DNA. (Trocho C., Pardo R, et al. Formaldehyde derived from dietary aspartame binds to tissue components in vivo. Life Sciences 63: 337-349, l998.
Coke and Pepsi knew all this and yet sent diet pop to the Persian Gulf where soldiers say it sat in the 120 degree Arabian sun on pallets for as long as 8 weeks at a time, and they drank them all day.
They were drinking formaldehyde cocktails. It is no wonder the symptoms of Desert Storm Syndrome are identical to the symptoms of Aspartame Disease now declared a world epidemic by H. J. Roberts, M.D. Page S 5508 in the NSDA document says "Aspartame decomposes extensively in soft drinks under moderate conditions." These were not moderate conditions.
Coke and Pepsi both knew the gun was loaded! Dick Adamson said NSDA posed a number of questions and once they were answered they no longer had concerns about the safety of aspartame.
What answer did they give that explained away decomposition into poison?????
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This is really great (and scary) information... It REALLY amkes you think... We have to be so careful with everything we do now. We have been green/organic living for a while... But that doesn't mean I haven't been exposed in that past. I used to drink Diet soda ALL day long, wore makeup, etc...
Craziness!
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great info; copied it to my newbie links! thanks:)
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