canefan17
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My nutritionist, who I highly respect, replied today with this... (consider that she's already seen my TBO, antibody, TSH, rT3, Trii, Free, Serum)
** there is nothing on your thyroid that needs to be looked at for another 3 months. Your thyroid is fine. You have been under some stress which has caused it to be sluggish... but there is no pathology. If there were... you would be gaining weight. Our main focus should be on the adrenals. in 3 months i want to test them **
**don't focus on the thyroid numbers. They might be off because of the adrenals and not because you have an actual thyroid problem **
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Sounds reasonable.
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Good - with hormone imbalances there can be other glands, like the adrenals, pituitary and / or hypothalamus that may be the source of the problem.
canefan17
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Her response makes the most sense.
but it's like in the back of my mind I'm going..."what if we missed it though."
I guess like she said... If I had hashmitos or pathology I would be gaining weight.
I will say that since starting her adrenal support protocol soooo many symptoms went away. (insomnia, fatigue, etc)
But the one issue is my body temperature is still low.
Everybody and their grandma says THIS is the indicator.
She tells me don't pay too much attention to that.
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Our daughter has abnormal antibody levels and low side of normal F T4.
Endo said no treatment only borderline for low thyroid, I thought differently and they decided to try treatment on low dose of Levothyroxine Sp?
We had to stop as caused bad lightheadness and some confusion.
Finally, we saw LLMD pediatrician in Conn and said that she should not be treated for Thyroid.
Not concerned of high antibodies, etc...Seven months into Lyme and Co treatment and her antibodies are coming down and her TSH was lower on last labs.
Her body temp has been 97.4, 97.6 etc.----for a long time--- Lately, 98.1, 98.6 , and her light sens. seems to be improving.
So maybe in her case her Thyroid levels were Lyme related, and will resolve with Lyme treatment. I still wonder though if some of her symptoms are being confused with Lyme and may be Thyroid related. This disease is so hard to figure out.
But, you seem to be improving with the adrenal treatment, so maybe see how things go,.Glad your are improving.
Good luck, Jane
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canefan17
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jane,
That's interesting. that seems to mirror what my naturalist is saying.
She says my body, from fighting an infection, is under so much stress that my cortisol/adrenals have been altered and will continue to fluctuate.
It's not until i'm done with treatment or at least 3 months of her supporting supplemental protocol that i should retest and see how my thyroid/adrenals are doing.
She is much more concerned with adrenals though. And cortisol.
which makes sense... because cortisol (high or low) can whack out the thyroid.
So you may go attack the thyoid problems and get more frustrated.... when all along it was your adrenals.
When you learn the process of these glands... it begins to make sense.
It all begins and ends with cortisol/adrenals though.
It's why doctors and researchers all the time say "stress can cause this and that."
Well Duh! Cuz stress causes a cortisol increase and the rest of the body to function improperly.
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Jane2904
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Please keep us up to date. I am interested to hear how things go,
It sounds like you are going in the right direction.
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I have low thyroid and never gained weight. I actually had weight LOSS issues. I treat it and feel so much better.
What are your basal temps like? Plus, there are methods for testing using temp for adrenal fatigue.
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canefan17
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six,
She was referring to hashmitos. do you have hash?
Plus I'm under the influence she doesn't think the low thyroid will cause weight loss. she believes that's from something else.
Which makes sense because a low thyroid typically slows the metabolism down. mine is in overdrive! from fighting an infection.
My morning temps are low. Afternoon around 97.7
She just told me to pay no concern to that right now.
I'm starting to see what she's saying.
(I don't feel bad enough to start a synthroid... just thought my hair loss might be attributed to thyroid. most seem to think that (and there's truth to it)
but in my case it seems to be malabsorption/babesia. hence the 20 lbs i've lost.
Oh well... we'll find out soon... cuz I'm treating babesia and doing adrenal support.
I'm destined to get my hair back.
Like Kramer says, "My face is my livelihood. My twinkle."
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I don't totally agree with her saying that "If there were... you would be gaining weight." That's not totally true. When I was hypothyroid I did not gain... I actually lost. And I'm still hypothyroid and I've maintained my weight. You can be hypothyroid and not gain weight or be bigger at all.
But the numbers that you did post before were pretty normal.
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disturb,
For starters... how do you know the hypothyroid was causing the weight loss?
How do you know it wasn't something else? (babs, parasites, malabsorption, celiac, etc etc)
-Not saying you're wrong... just simply asking.
Also... the only concern with my numbers were the rT3 was high. So does this simply mean I'm not converting the T4 to T3?
But I am producing T4?
I'm hoping this thyroid supplement (kelp) will start to aid in the conversion process.
GIVE ME T3 OR GIVE ME DEATH!
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I didn't mean to sound like the hypo was making me lose weight. But what I meant was that IN GENERAL - you can be hypothyroid and not gain weight and actually lose weight (even if it's not due to the hypo). Does that make sense?
Hypothyroidism isn't so bad that you'd rather wish for death.... definitely not.
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canefan17
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Ya- I gotcha.
So you thought my numbers looked ok?
What's the thought there? just curious (making sure that I'm making sense of the thyroid)
: )
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I have Hashi's and have always been thin as a rail. So there is a subset of patients who can be thin and have Hashi's. Hypo issues can at times make it difficult for people to put on weight...absorption issues, etc.
Of course, I'm male with hypothyroidism. I think that hypothyroidism is often looked at as a mostly female condition. I suspect gender plays a significant role in how hypo manifests.
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I also didn't mean to imply the thyroid made my lose weight .... I was just saying, I lost weight with Lyme AND had low thyroid.
I didn't see your numbers from before. Mine were all borderline, within range, but all on the hypo end of the normal range, so my LLMD decided to do a trial run of thyroid. I take the natural kind, not the synthroid.
I felt better when my temp came up a bit into the 98 range.
I also took adrenal support. I no longer take adrenal support but still take one grain of thyroid.
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