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tickalert
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Anyone ever use this?

I went to my PCP and was told I have fluid in my ears and severe allergies.

She said to take Omnaris nose spray and Zyrtec for allergies.

Still having trouble with my ears. Finally got the first snow fall but I still feel pretty rotten.

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joalo
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Up.

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Sick since January 1985. Misdiagnosed for 20 years. Tested CDC positive October 2005. Treating since April 2006.

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I would run it by your LLMD first. It is a steroid spray from what I saw when I Googled it.

I've been using Sinol. It's all natural and has cayenne pepper. It does burn a little, but it works. Fortunately, hayfever season is over .....

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Keebler
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Nasal steroid sprays started off over 10 years of pain and horror for me. I'm so glad to not need those now as they never really worked and caused so much harm.

There are other ways.
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Search at Google and YouTube (for instruction): NETI POT

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ALLICIN / GARLIC capsules

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http://www.seagateproducts.com/olive-leaf-extract.html

SEAGATE Olive Leaf Extract

http://www.seagateproducts.com/olive-leaf-nasal-spray.html

OLE NASAL SPRAY

http://www.seagateproducts.com/earache-remedy.html

OLE Ear drops (from the outer ear -- but OLE tablets can help with inner/middle ear symptoms.

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http://www.truthaboutlymedisease.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=638

OLE and Lyme Disease

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www.amazon.com/Olive-Leaf-Extract-Morton-Walker/dp/1575662264/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265402342&sr=1-1

Book: Olive Leaf Extract - by Dr. Morton Walker

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Olive Leaf Extract � 81 abstracts

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_virus14.htm

OLE interview with Dr. Morton Walker.
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Keebler
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ALL EARS.
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Specifically for LYME patients - lots of details about ears and what can help:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=065801

Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links - including HYPERACUSIS
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Yup, 100% with Keebler.

NO CORTICOSTEROIDS!

I used Omnaris even against my own judgement that it was making me feel sicker. I complained of chest pains to my doctor, and he said no way it could be Omnaris and told me to keep using it.

Inflammation is a key factor, and steroids can make inflammation much worse for us.

DO NOT USE IT.

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WHY NO STEROIDS?
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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease

Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

16th edition, Copyright October, 2008

Joseph J. Burrascano

Excerpts:

P. 4:

. . . More severe illness also results from other causes of weakened defenses, such as from severe stress, immunosuppressant medications, and severe intercurrent illnesses.

This is why steroids and other immunosuppressive medications are absolutely contraindicated in Lyme. This also includes intraarticular steroids. . . .

From page 12:

. . . More evidence has accumulated indicating the severe detrimental effects of the concurrent use of immunosuppressants including steroids in the patient with active B. burgdorferi infection.

Never give steroids or any other immunosuppressant to any patient who may even remotely be suffering from Lyme, or serious, permanent damage may result, especially if given for anything greater than a short course.

If immunosuppressive therapy is absolutely necessary, then potent antibiotic treatment should begin at least 48 hours prior to the immunosuppressants. . . .

Page 20:

. . . and absolutely no immunosuppressants, even local doses of steroids (intra-articular injections, for example). . . .

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http://www.lymenet.de/literatur/steroids.htm

Antibiotics and Steroids - by John Drulle, M.D.

Excerpt:

. . . "Steroid Disaster" is a term coined by the pioneer of Lyme Treatment . . .

Corticosteroids are immune suppressants, the last thing a Lyme patient needs is to lower immunity.


Can you imagine, your body trying hard to fight off the spirochete bacteria and suddenly and immunosuppressants is introduced, "freezing" your immune system, rendering it unable to battle, giving great advantage now to the Lyme bacteria to spread and go wherever it wants .

Corticosteroids can last in the body for months, usually around 6 months. In many bacterial infections such as LD, damage can be done.

Many Lyme patients (such as myself) triggered LD with cortisone shots, pills, inhalers, etc. I can tell you, it is a nightmare I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

It is imperative to NEVER take corticosteroid for pain if you know you have a bacterial infection.

Some bacterial infections are so severe that a shot of cortisone could kill you, although that would be unlikely with Lyme, but rule of thumb, bacterial infections and immunosuppressants do not mix! . . .

. . . Dr. Burrascano makes it clear in his treatment guidelines that steroid treatment is detrimental, these are excerpts from his guidelines:

"More evidence has accumulated indicating the severe detrimental effects of the concurrent use of immunosuppressants including steroids in the patient with active B. burgdorferi infection.

Never give steroids or any other immunosuppressant to any patient who may even remotely be suffering from Lyme, or serious, permanent damage may result, especially if given for anything greater than a short course.

If immunosuppressive therapy is absolutely necessary, then potent antibiotic treatment should begin at least 48 hours prior to the immunosuppressants.

The severity of the clinical illness is directly proportional to the spirochete load, the duration of infection, and the presence of co-infections. These factors also are proportional to the intensity and duration of treatment needed for recovery.

More severe illness also results from other causes of weakened defenses, such as from severe stress, immunosuppressants medications, and severe intercurrent illnesses.

This is why steroids and other immunosuppressants medications are absolutely contraindicated in Lyme. This also includes intra-articular steroids."

An easy explanation. Your immune system are the "soldiers" of your body constantly standing by to attack any foreign invader.

When an immunosuppressant is used, it is like killing off or knocking out most of your "soldiers", now your body is open to all foreign invasion and while your immune system is knocked out, those invaders can go anywhere, your heart, liver, brain - everywhere.

- full article at link above.
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