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I am starting antibiotics next week. I've been taking Byron White A-L Complex for two months 2 times a day, in the morning and at night. I finally had my first herx at 18 drops 2x day.
I was told that I could take them with abx or probiotics so I plan on keeping them at the same morning and night schedule.
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The instructions I had from BW, via my LLMD said that they should be taken 3 hours after antibiotics, on an empty stomach. It doesn't say how long before food, but I would think 30+ minutes.
INSTRUCTIONS:
The importance of activating the BWF's by shaking them before each dose. The BWF's use a complex process of micronized herbs, bio-energetics, and herbal extract, all designed to work in concert. The herbal formula is natural and contain no unnatural emulsifiers. When you shake the formula, you mix the mircronized herbs and extract to catalyze this powerful matrix. This should be done before taking each dose.
Can one drop really create a effective response? Yes. All the BWFs can be effective at low doses, so we recommend that you start at 1 drop taken twice a day (for many patients this is a preferred starting dose).
Should the drops should be held in the mouth before swallowing? Yes, it has been shown that the best way to take the BWFs is to put the dose in a little water and hold it in your mouth for a minute before swallowing, This allows the BWFs energetic matrix to immediately move through the meridians and energetics of the body.
What can I do if a patient needs a dosage of less than a drop? Sometimes a small dose of less than a drop is needed in highly sensitive patients. We recommend that the patient place one drop of formula in 3 ounces of water in a glass and stir it with a non-metallic spoon, or swirl it. The patient should then take one-ounce (or a dose of 1/3 of an ounce) and store the rest in the refrigerator until used.
Can I mix the BWF's with other herbs? No, Please don't not mix the BWF's with other herbs or homeopathics. This is a common mistake with the use of herbal formulas. When you take another herb with at the same time, you change the formula and can alter its ability to help the patient.
How do the BWF's support the body systems? The BWFs herbal matrix work in concert to support the body systems, functioning and detoxification. Each formula works uniquely to support the systems needed, herbally and energetically, helping the body to better deal with the stress of microbial die-off, while strengthening system functions and supplying nutrients that naturally occur in the herbs.
How do the BWF's support neurotoxin binding and detoxification? All BWF's have herbs in them that historically have been shown to help in detoxification and binding neurotoxins. In addition, the bio-energetic herbal matrix and energetics help support binding and neurotoxin detoxification.
Have patients recovered from TBI using Only the BWF's? Yes, many practitioners practice drugless forms of health care. I am one of them. I developed these formulas to help the people I work with regain their health. Many of the people previously had used antibiotics and were still sick, or could not tolerate antibiotics. I have always believed in Nature's ability to heal, and the Byron White Formulas were created from this conviction.
Can the BWF's be used with antibiotics? Yes, antibiotics can be used with the BWF's.
How far apart should antibiotics be taken from the BWF's? If the person is taking oral antibiotics, it is preferable that the antibiotic be taken first, then wait 3 hour before taking the BWF. This way the formula and its energetics will be more effective and not have to compete with the drug during digestion.
What are the best times for the patient to take the formulas? If the BWF's are to be taken twice a day, I find that taking them first thing in the morning and in the early evening to be a good schedule. If the evening schedule affects sleep, then they can take it earlier. They are best taken by themselves in water water, away from food and other beverages.
Can multiple BWF's be taken ? Multiple BWF can be used, but they should be taken at least 20 to 40 minutes or more apart from each other.
What has research and clinical experience shown concerning how the patients felt they benefited from the BWF's? Research Groups and clinical experience have shown that the BWF's work on many levels. 1) They help support the immune system response to the current issue. Patients felt responses to the formula immediately and had a sense that it was helping. 2) Patients showed improvement emotionally. Patients also received benefits at lower doses, making the formula more economical and useful for working with those people who can only handle small amounts of an herbal. 3) Research study groups and clinical experience have shown that the issue the body is dealing with is unmasked, allowing the immune system to better recognize and deal with the infection. All patients have reported what they describe as die-off symptoms and symptom relief, feeling better emotionally and having better response to stress and lessening of depression, anxiety and other emotional reactivity related to the particular issue. 4) Patients reported a desire to have greater involvement in their lives. Many reported increased energy and better sleep over the course of taking the formulas. Acupuncture pulse diagnosis showed an increase in chi levels. All patients experienced a decrease in symptoms and symptom resolution, based on before/after surveys. some patients may require a combination of formulas. In summary, our formulas are effective, free from adulteration and toxins,often more cost effective for patients, and easy to use.
Using formulas externally with meridians, joints, and spine I discovered early on in my research of TBD and other pathogens that they affected meridian flows in the body. For instance, Borrelia affects the central median flows. Utilizing the BW's helps correct these affected flows. If you practice energetic medicine and have a knowledge of the meridian pathways, you can do kineseological testing to see which formula is appropriate to use for that meridian or acupuncture point. For external problems associated with TBD, experience has shown that it can be beneficial to apply one drop above and below the problem as well as on it. If there is spinal involvement, BWF's can be usedtopically as well. Clinical experience has shown that it is best to combine this techinique with oral use. Have the patient take the oral drops for a period of at least 3 weeks or more based on individual case by case basis. The BWF's can be applied as well to the bottoms of the feet. This method is useful to help the energetics flow through the meridians as well as affect the body. Experience has shown that this method can have very positive results. Please only use this method after using the BWF's in drop form for at least 3 weeks. This method is also useful if the person has extreme qi problems and cannot tolerate supplements. Please only use a drop when doing external application and do not apply to open wounds.
Can BWFs be used with detox remedies or other formulas. Yes, BWFs can be used with other formulas, but these should be taken separately and at least one hour away from the BWF. Homeopathics and drainage homeopathic-spagyrics can be taken 20 minutes after the BWF. If you suspect current toxicity, I suggest using the homepathic-spagyric drainage remedies 20 minutes before taking the BWF.
How have BWF's been used with chemically sensitive and very sensitive patients? The BWF's were designed with chemical sensitivity in mind. The majority of the people I have worked with were chemically sensitive. Allergies, pesticide exposures, and metals can leave the body more reactive. All the formulas were designed to be as hypoallergenic as possible. I recommend starting with only one formula at low doses of 1-2 drops 1-3X a week. BWF's herbals support the detox process and help bind neurotoxins. I also strongly recommend appropriate use of drainage formulas as needed.
How quickly do patients respond? In my experience, people repond immediately to the BWFs. Some patients describe an almost immediate sense of something changing or feeling supported. Some people describe feeling stronger, at times even when the formulas are still on the testing plate I use when doing a analysis. Some patients also experience an immediate symptom picture that references to the challenge they are dealing with.
Are there any side-effects caused by the formulas? The formulas are non-toxic and the doses low. There are no side affects from the formulas themselves. However, patients have reported die-off symptoms, and a short term hightening of symptoms may occur too. Some practitioners tell me that these effects from the formulas have been helpful in confirming their diagnosis.
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I am glad you posted that. I had not read this sheet, but was told by the LLMD to take the BWF drops away from other meds, vitamins, and herbals. This creates a problem for me and often to accommodate the stuff I take I am up until 11 or 12 at night. The vitalzym I take needs to be 1 hour before/2 hours after food a.m. and p.m. Antibiotics are 2x/day with food. Probiotics preferably on an empty stomach and away from antibiotics, 2x/day. Vitamins and prebiotic - some 2x/day, some 3x/day with food. Homeopathics 3x/day on an empty stomach. Then there's the detox stuff which I have no idea how to fit in. I seem to be incapable of juggling all of this so I either do the homeopathics or the BWF, but not both because I can't figure out how to schedule it. I am looking forward to seeing a response here from someone who has done this. I've never had to keep track of so much with so little faculty for doing so.
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Anyone know whether the alcohol base in these drops is significant if you are also taking Flagyl?
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Thanks for posting the instructions Annelet. I was never given any sort of instructions and clearly have not been given the correct oral instructions either.
This is very frustrating to me because it makes me feel I just waisted a lot of time and money taking these herbs incorrectly.
For one, I've been taking them in the morning with breakfast and a bunch of other supplements.
I've also been taking them at bed time when I also take Clonazepam. Now I'm wondering if that is ok.
No one ever told me to not take them with food and other herbs!!!
I also have the issue that INEBG has in that I have a lot of other things I'm starting to take (antibiotics, probiotics, supplements, activated charcoal, etc.) that have to be spaced out from one another.
I just don't know how I'm supposed to do all this. I'm also not willing to stay up later etc. to fit it all in because sleep is essential to getting well from any illness!!!
In addition, when I asked the dr. who gave them to me if I could continue grapefruit seed extract with them he told me no because he didn't know how they would work together. Not much of an answer.
And then the LLNP I went to told me she didn't know and I should call BioResource.
Which I just did. And the man I spoke with there said he could not answer my questions because they only distribute it.
He was very understanding and even frustrated at the dr.'s for not having this information for their patients.
He had a wonderful attitude that the doctors have taken an oath to help the patients and thus should be doing the work to get these answers. That they are right quick to take our money but not to have the answers we need.
He called my "lyme friendly" dr. for me.
However, my dr. office was closed today so he called me back and said that if I have my dr. call BioResource that BioResource will give him the number for Byron White and Byron White is willing to answer any dr. questions.
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I think I will have to do the same thing........I noticed on their blurb that the products contain iron and as I have Hemochromatosis I have to avoid that. No indication as to how much iron, so I need to check it out.
We really do need to check everything!
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It cost me $79 and have lasted for 1.5-2 months. How long a bottle would last would depend though on how many drops you can tolerate. And that might depend on if you are taking them correctly.
I am wondering if it took me 18 drops 2x day to herx because I was taking them improperly. Maybe I would have herxed earlier. Who knows.
I met someone who was taking them for a co (don't remember which one) and she herxed after 3 drops 2x day.
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This information is different from the leaflet I was given, The information was directly from http www.bioresourceinc.com/bwherbal under
INTRODUCTION TO THE BYRON WHITE FORMULAS
It states on here: If taking other formulas or supplements, wait a minimum of 20 minutes after taking the BW Formulas (It does not say anything about how far away from AB's but I only take it 1/2 away from AB's and Herx HARD on 2 drops of AL-Complex)
How to Use the Formulas: Store the formulas on a non-metallic surface and away from electrical appliances such as cell phones and computers, and electromagnetics such as fans.
1. Formulas are best used on a empty stomach or at least 30 minutes before eating.
2. Shaking the bottle well is very important. It mixes the micronized herbs with the liquid extract. I also suggest that the bottle be succussed by hitting the bottom of the bottle 6 times on the palm of your hand before taking any drops.
3. Put the amount of drops you are taking in a small amount of water (1/4-1/2 ounce is sufficient) in a glass or ceramic cup. Swish the glass (do not stir it with anything metal).
4. Take the formula into your mouth and hold it there for 30-60 seconds. This allows the energetics of the formula to spread through all the energetic pathways and for the formula to be well absorbed.
5. If taking other formulas or supplements, wait a minimum of 20 minutes after taking the BW Formulas.
6. If a patient has a problem with alcohol of any kind, a small glass of warm water can be used to dissipate some of the alcohol. Hot or boiling water should never be used with the formulas.
7. The formulas are concentrated and sometimes the dropper may clog. Shaking the bottle will usually free the dropper.
8. Formulas are very potent and taking small amounts often are enough to produce results, especially in the beginning of use.
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Muddyfeet, how are you getting on with these formulas? Are you noticing any changes?
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randibear
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hmmm, is this sort of like the cowden protocol?
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