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lymetwister
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It appears the Answer is Yes. Curious if this is a release of Toxins from the Lymph, or did I kill stuff ?

I got on my treadmill as I saw it helps POTS symptoms and I went at a fast pace 3 days in a row for about 30 min. each day.

I got a nice sweat going each time and it wasn't difficult nor was I sore despite not doing anything aerobic for so long, but I seem to get this way doing simple things anyhow b/c of the POTS being present all the time, so I figured what the heck.

I had an all out Herx today and I've been holding treatment b/c of my last Herx, so it was the last thing I wanted to do. Seems like I herx from everything, but there is no question.

I now have Flu like symptoms which I didn't have before, a low grade temp 99.5 and I feel absolutely miserable. Anxiety is flaring and emotional stuff as well.

Perhaps I hit my Adrenals too hard..

Would love to know !

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Yes. It's horrible. You shouldn't be doing cardio, it's bad for Lyme patients when your'e that sick. Do some light rebounding. Also muscle work and stretching.

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It would kill me to do what you did. Especially 2-3 days later, I'd be a living hell. Yes, it can be a dangerous game with certain health problems. Especially given you believe you have severe Babesia!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by lymetwister:

I got on my treadmill as I saw it helps POTS symptoms and I went at a fast pace 3 days in a row for about 30 min. each day.


Perhaps I hit my Adrenals too hard..



This was my first thought. Have you had a cortisol(4x) lately?
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Yes, the adrenal dysfunction is one reason that aerobics are not recommended for those with infections, etc.

Cardiac and mitochondrial issues are a concern, too. The heart is not to be pushed during infection states.

Anyone with liver issues need to be very careful with aerobics. Aerobics push more toxins through the liver and, often, it just can't handle that.

Everyone with lyme has liver stress. Just one reason why aerobics can be devastating for many.

Why not do Tai Chi, Yoga, or Pilates ? Mild or moderate weight training ? Why not just walk at normal pace?

None of those are to be sneezed at and can really work a stressed body (and liver) while not destroying it along the way.

Forget fast - for now. What is this need for speed REALLY about? Speed can kill if the machine is not in tip-top shape.

Keep. An. Even. Keel.
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I agree with Keebler - speed can kill. I was pushing myself to walk faster and faster during my daily walks last Autumn, and to take more than one walk per day. All of a sudden, I woke up unable to move and was unable to do anything physically active for about 6-7 months. Just walking across my tiny house (less than 800 sqr. feet) wore me out completely.

So here's my new modus operendi when it comes to exercise:

1. Daily walks are important, but the goal is to walk for 20 minutes, not to push myself to be a speed walker. So no matter how far I go in those 20 minutes, I am happy that I am able to get out and walk at all.

2. Strengthening exercises are important for bone health, and my bones need help! So I've added leg and wrist exercises three days a week (can't do the arm exercises with the PICC line, can't do abdominal exercises with the feeding tube...still working on what all exercises are safe for me).

3. If I can't do anything for exercise, I have a new opportunity tomorrow to try again. No beating myself up for missing an exercise session, I just pick up where I left off with the strength exercises, and continue my 20 minute daily walks.

Baby steps - not huge leaps - are what we need.

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