I am set to have a root fragment removed from my lower jaw this week. It has a cyst around it, and may be infected. I have been having jaw pain for quite a while now.
I am wondering whether I should go ahead and have the Oral Surgeon remove the root canalled tooth that is on that same jaw.
Pros: Only one surgery, one recovery time and lower costs due to one sedation. No more wondering if this dead tooth is adding to my problems.
Cons: What if this was as good tooth that I could use for decades with no problems, and I had it pulled?
I don't have much time to decide and I keep waffling back and forth. Have any of you guys had a root canalled tooth removed when you weren't 100% sure it was a problem?
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I was the one.I was nearly death from lyme and all coinfections.I had TMJ PAIN And TOOTH Pain.I could not handle the jaw pain was very severe. I saw a Dentist that did not used mercury but had somebody that used muscle testing ( finger testing ) and a biofeedback machine to see if the infections were deeper while the scan of my mouth did not show much. I insisted on removing almost all mollars on the lower jaw.Maybe a couple were OK but most of the ones that had ROOT CANALS and I was hurting were infected and needed cleaning of the jaw deeper that he had ever seen in any patient. He mentined I was suffering from LYME disease.In the begining I insisted to remove all root canals.I was sick and thougth I had something severe as I was in pain from head to toe.Babesia was the worst of all and bartonella with LYME activated FULLY and very neuro. WHen he removed all the root canals only he saw infection that was severely around the root canals.If it hurts than you know it is a cyst and the antibiotics will not reach that part easy when you suffere with lyme already.Mostly have lyme and bart included and bart hides in root canals. The oral surgeon cleaned the cavitations and I had bone loss due to bartonella and the infections but he mentioned the grafs and the mri and scanner showed nothing.But his biofeedback machine was showing HIGH INFECTED entire JAW area where the root canals were. I had lyme for long and the root canals were infected since I wanted to put bridges.Back than 15 years ago No one knew that this could have been lyme.Lyme was activated from steroids and when I wanted to do the bridges the root canals that were prepared got all infected since than and over the past 15 years I would get cyst below them .At the end they all were removed.all the money for bridges and root canals was wasted.If I knew I would have removed them and let them empty since than . With lyme when I remision I tried to do bone crafting almost 2 years ago for implanst with ZIRCONIA.Huge mistake I got sick the first time I got Clyndamycin with high fever.I still had lyme and babesia and I ended up in ER.I removed all bone crafting and NOW I would sugeest to never do bone crafting as long as you have lyme dieasies.Mine got infected and I got sick from them .END of story.THOUSAND of DOLLARS wasted . Leave them empty and use Partials .That is the way to go .
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I would do everything possible to save a tooth. Not have it pulled. Once the tooth is removed and unless you have a partial or a dental implant, your bite won't be the same.
I had a friend who had all her teeth pulled at 21 and wore dentures. By the time she was 45 she had severe jowling from the lack of support that those teeth offer. She looked 10 years older.
It's not just cosmetic, those teeth are connected to different meridians in the body. Unless they are very problematic, I would not have them removed.
Of course some root canals are not done correctly and can become very problematic. Thats why it's important to have a good dentist or endodontist do the work.
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I vote to remove it. I had a root canal crack, so I had to have it removed. The root was black with infection!
After healing, I had the tooth replaced with an implant. I love it. It has given me no trouble. I've since learned that the infected root canal is a common scenario.
I am wondering whether I should go ahead and have the Oral Surgeon remove the root canalled tooth that is on that same jaw.
Pros: Only one surgery, one recovery time and lower costs due to one sedation. No more wondering if this dead tooth is adding to my problems.
Cons: What if this was as good tooth that I could use for decades with no problems, and I had it pulled?
Hi aperture, it cannot be a good tooth since it has a root canal done. Maybe if it would be a last one standing and no problems, it could be used to hold something, but still a dead tooth is a nail to your coffin. It adds to toxic levels and depresses immune reaction. Check out the site of Huggins centre or info on Weston Price. http://www.westonaprice.org/dentistry/root-canal-dangers Becoming informed will probably take away your hesitations.
But make sure you have an iv of vitamin C before or after or during the operation. It will help tremendously with recovery. Good luck and good health!
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This probably won't be real helpful, but just wanted to share my story. I had a root canal removed because suspected it could be contributing to my issues.
Was done by a biological dentist in DC area and was exhorbitantly expensive. Did not make one bit of difference in how I felt. Would not do it again, if faced with the choice.
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rene--who suggested you remove the tooth? Was it your suspicion or the dentist? How expensive was it?
My father lived to a ripe age of 80. Had all his teeth removed in his 20's and wore dentures when he met my mom. You couldn't tell and it never affected his appearance. I never saw him without them. I think he even slept with them.
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It's such a difficult decision to have to make. I do have 2 root canalled teeth. One is in my upper right jaw and is fine for now. (I'm definitely not having it pulled...yet)
The one I'm concerned about is on my lower left jaw. It was abcessed at the time of the root canal treatment 3 yrs ago. The little lymph node below it stays sore and slightly swollen. This cannot be a good sign, even though the Xrays are always fine.
Thanks guys for your insight!
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I had the same abscess form under my jaw after my root canal. I don't think the infection ever completely resolved.
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I would save the tooth if it is not bothering you. It is not going to save you that much money to have it pulled and could wind up causing you more trouble than just leaving it alone.
If you are worried about mercury leaching you can have the tissue in your body tested (so I am told). Also you could get the MTHFR DNA mutation test to see if you have trouble detoxing making heavy metals more of a problem for you. It is better to make an informed decision rather than a hysterical one.
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