desertwind
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I am off abx.'s and on 3 different Byron Whites (A-L,Babs and P).
Was put on Serrapeptase for biofilms but am not currently on any abx.'s - just the Byron Herbs.
So, feeling wrecked on day 4 and worried that I am breaking up biofilms but do not have any abx.s in my system to kill the ketes. Would the herbs be enough??? I know, a good question for my LLMD.
Feeling like I should be back on at least one abx. while taking a biofilm buster. Kinda like being on a cyst buster without any abx.s..
Has anyone taken Serrapeptase without being on any abx.s?
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surprise
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Well, it is part of the Cowden protocol, and that is herbs only...
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Systemic Enzymes like Serrapeptase are good for even healthy people, so YES.. keep going!!
I have no idea about the herbs. Some do well on them.
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I've been on mostly an herbal protocol for the past year and I take Serrapeptase. Tutu is right about it being good for all.
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Carol in PA
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A good protocol for Lyme is to take Wobenzym and cat's claw.
The systemic enzyme blend breaks down the biofilm and the cat's claw stimulates the white blood cells to phage (eat) bacteria in the bloodstream.
I'm not sure what the Byron White protocol includes...does it use cat's claw?
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desertwind
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I have a call into my LLMD..Just feel like I might be breaking things up without the proper amount of kete killers in my system.
I am hoping I am well enough at this point to do just Byron White but am getting all nervous about the whole thing - especially cuz I am taking the biofilm supp.
No Cat's Claw in Byron. A host of herbs but no Cat's Claw. I have one hand on my bottle of Doxy though...
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The yucky feeling isn't always biofilms busting just so you know.
Anytime we substantially improve blood flow (as Serrapeptase and Boluoke do so well) you detox deeper & reach infections deeper (brain).
I take Serrapeptase 1 hour before my abxs.
The results I got from Boluoke were SO dramatic for me (in a positive way). I added serrapeptase and it has been beter for inflammation and herxing.
Love both!
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I just wanted to say that if you are taking A-BAB that it actually does have Cat's Claw in it. On the bottle they use all of the technical names for the herbs. BUT the Uncaria Rhynchophylla that should be listed is actually Chinese Cat's Claw.
Chinese Cat's Claw isn't the same form of Cat's Claw that is in Samento which is Uncaria Tomentosa. Not sure if that makes much of a difference though. If they are using it in the A-BAB then I imagine it has the same killing power as the Cat's Claw in Samento but I can't say for sure.
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Systemic enzymes POTENTIATE the effect of the herbs and/or abx.
You are most likely feeling that effect. It's GOOD!
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desertwind
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Thanks! It helps to hear all of this. It makes sense since most of my TBI stuff is from the neck up and neuro.
Interesting re; the brain detox stuff as I have had alot of head pressure with eye pain/pain behind my eyes, light sensitivity along with numbness once again on my scalp. All since starting the A-L and Serra. five days ago.
I am not yet on A-Babs - just A-L and A-P. Will add the A-Babs in a short time. I did see that the A-Babs has Cat's Claw in it.
Anyhow...thanks for the feedback:)
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