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Topic: Herpes outbreak not going away. Bart cramping my immunity

PinchMe
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So i was doing pretty well off ABX for approx. 3 years. I contracted HSV2 last year and the outbreaks have been very long but intermittent. I currently have an outbreak that has been lasting over 2 months (7-14 days is the avg).

I've concluded it has something to do with my bart or babs hindering my immune response (lyme proper with its joint and pain complications was never an issue for me). I started herbs (samento) and heavy dosing of vitamin c for the babs/bart and landed myself in the hospital with what seemed to be delayed herx (anxiety rush, confusion, brain fog extreme - which i thought my be viral encephalitis but i'd be dead by now if that was the case) I also had an ear infection that never completely resolved while the HSV was active.

My thoughts on why my immune system is out to lunch...

Bart or babs is inhibiting my immune system - started treating with mepron, zith and rifampin for the first time in 3 years.... we'll seee.

Vitamin D - i do maintain that there is a connection between vitamin d being either palliative, immunoboosting or immunosuppressant. while i dont want to mess with it... i'm sure my ratio of D-25 to D1-25 is off. I did spend a ton of time over the summer in the sun.. and perhaps things are more so out of whack.

I had one doctor test me for HIV since thats what is usually the case when people have outbreaks lasting this long. Negative for HIV.

I appreciate any and all feed back... and wish all of you comfort in your healing process.

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Bit in March 2005.

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surprise
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Member # 34987

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Not to be obvious, but are you on a constant strong dose of Valtrex or Famvir? I don't have this infection, but know some with it

need a constant anti- viral- or, they go into 'viral protocols'
high dose vitamin A, Virastop, OLE-

I would get vitamin D checked, and bring up if necessary- maybe add transfer factor, etc.

Catching this hit your immune system hard- sorry--

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Lyme positive PCR blood, and
positive Bartonella henselae Igenex, 2011.
low positive Fry biofilm test, 2012.
Update 7/16- After extensive treatments,
doing okay!

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PinchMe
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yeah antivirals do nothing....it has cleared in the past on its own

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Bit in March 2005.

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GretaM
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Have you had your immunoglobbins checked?

They are serum proteins that indicate immune function.

If one of them is low, then it throws the other ones off and the body can't fight any viruses or bacteria in effective "stages"

IgM IgG IgA (serum protein immunoglobbins)

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susank
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I agree with Greta. Get your immunoglobulin levels checked. Total serum and if possible subclasses.

If deficient you might qualify for IVIG.

IVIG "is rich in neutralizing antibodies against HSV 1 and 2".

I remember when starting on IVIG my doctor said that IVIG would "take care of" any viruses I had.

(I forgot to ask about neutralizing bacteria etc).

I read an article that said that folks on IVIG have fewer and less severe herpes outbreaks.

That of course is not what IVIG is used for.
I guess that would be considered a nice "side effect".

If tested and your levels are "normal" and you don't qualify for IVIG - just a thought - to try IGIM - the muscle injections. ie Gamastan.

I have read where folks with CFS/EBV virus show improvement with 2-4 cc's of Gamastan per week.

Also that Gamma has helped some folks fight off ParvoB19.

Worth researching and testing.

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Pos.Bb culture 2012
Labcorp - no bands ever
Igenex - Neg. 4 times
With overall bands:
IGM 18,28,41,66 IND: 23-25,34,39
IGG 41,58 IND: 39
Bart H IGG 40

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mlg
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Try collidal silver.

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mlg
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Try collidal silver.

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