I even asked Dr's nurse about it she said thats kinda interesting.

So heres the question.

Is there or has there ever been a study or studies of the effect of tobacco on germs?

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Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
 

But I also am certain that the net effect on you of smoking tobacco (or chewing or whatever) would be negative. It is toxic to you.

Far better to stay on the road to building your own health and immunity, and hit the bb with substances that are not so broadly toxic to you.

Dan
 

Interesting post. I have to add that I have quit smoking. Very hard. The strange thing for me is, I started again for a week or so and was so sick from it. Brought on anxiety and stress, so was hard to give up again and got into vicious cycle, until finally gave it up again.

I now have 0 tolerance for smoking. I get neurological symptoms and my circulation get sluggish and limbs cold etc. After quitting I realise how much worse it made my situation. My pain is less than when smoking and everything works better. It is still hard.

Today I am off the patch and it is hard. Even on patch feel much better, than smoking. I wasn't ready for the longest time and then I was.

Good luck to everyone trying to quit. I hear you about the toxic to bb part, I only wish, cause I smoked enough to be free from lyme.

Take Care
Lymiecanuck
 

Smokers are advised to take Vit C. Why? Cigarette smoke pulls the minerals out of the lung cells. Not healthy. Vit C, being an "antioxidant" donates electrons to react with the free radicals (lone neg. charges -most are oxygen) that do damage.

Too many neg. charges harm healthy cells...primarily because they rob the cells of the minerals needed by the cells.

Acidosis triggers inflammation. Neg. charge triggers positive response = ouch.

Mg(++) low -> Ca (++) tries to go into cells (not good so body responds) -> triggers angiotensin II (protein, neg. charge -> up goes TNF alpha (alpha is positive in Greek)

Follow?

Incidentally, glycogen has a positive charge. We need glycogen...brain cells, mitochondria, WBCs. A lot of healing taking place post smoking.

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I have a few people in my life who suffer from this disease, and both tried to quit smoking with bad results, in that, it flared their symptoms. Current research shows smoking actually helps to treat their symptoms.

I also have friends who tell me many schizophrenic patients actually suffer from Lyme. I don't know how valid this is...obviously some do, but what number?

I know that one person in my life who has schizophrenia contracted an undiagnosed case of Lyme 25 years ago (they had a bulls-eye rash), and has never been treated. Their case is so complicated now that it is difficult to begin treating Lyme, detoxing, dealing with metals, etc. It is difficult enough to simply keep up with schizophrenia, turrets, ADD, and OCD.

After years of encouraging the person to quit smoking, I now encourage them to keep smoking. Wierd.
 

Exposed to toxins...neg. charges...Mg and glycogen - positive charges - to the "rescue". Levels drop quickly.

Our liver, stores Mg and glycogen, but only a day's supply of glycogen. It is our 4 pound "detox" organ.

With Mg levels dropping ...as we use it to make energy, to make antibodies to fight...all the while Bb is munching on it...our levels drop, fast.

This triggers calcium to try to supply the ++ charges that are missing. Not good. Mg, and ONLY the electrolyte Mg, is needed to make ATP. So the body tries to stop this. With Ca rising...histamine is triggered. Angiotensin II levels rise also (another neg. charge), triggering TNF alpha the PRO inflammatory cytokine, a pos. charge.

See what GOOD TNF alpha does in my updated nutshell post. It's not entirely a "bad guy". We need to really think about whether or not to (entirely) block this.

When someone is struck by lightning... a huge neg. charge, what is given? Electrolytes...pos. charged minerals... a lot of them.

When the kids of Chernobyl were exposed to nuclear radiation (neg. charge) what were they given? Spirulina. Pos. charge.

What else is used if exposed to radiation? Iodine.

See? It's all about restoring the balance.

Here's something curious. Following back surgery (twice), I had no desire for a cigarette WHILE I was on Tylenol #3 to control the pain post op...(tylenol + codeine). With less inflammation, was my body telling itself the crisis has passed? No need for more acids?

This is stuff for coffee shop talks ;-)with friends.
 

Histamine and coffeine patches are being worn successfully by some MS patients. My husband also shows some MS type symptoms, however, these do not work for him as determined by ART testing. For those interested, see www.EDMSLLC.com; also www.tahoma-clinic.com/msgillson.shtml

This learning journey......

Electromagnetic reasons.

Oh, yes...very much a learning journey...a long one!

But the brain "exercise" will help us!

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