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Posted by Catrina (Member # 5344) on :

In the article on Samento recently posted (for some reason I could not send a reply to that message), it says that they use a product called Silphex! to clear neurotoxins.

I had to stop the Samento because I got to a point where I didn't even know my name (although in retrospect I should have backed down the dosage instead of stopping).

Does anyone know where to obtain this "Silphex!" stuff and has anyone ever used it?

I did a google search but came up with nothing other than the article posted here on Lymenet.

CAT

[This message has been edited by Catrina (edited 27 June 2004).]

Posted by lymeinhell (Member # 4622) on :

Can't help you on the Silphex.... Just wanted to chime in that I too herxed off it on my third day.

I take the capsules, and had to open them up and start at 1/4 each day for a week, then build up by 1/4. It took some time, but it has made a huge difference in my pain levels.

Hope someone finds Silphex, because I'm interested too...

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Julie G.
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lymeinhell

Posted by Cat (Member # 5595) on :

Hi lymeinhell,

I am still pursuing trying to find this stuff. Tried at the health food store yesterday.

I googled the name of the guy in the article & he & his wife have written a book about LD. I really don't want to spend $40 on a book just to find this product.

I started back on the Samento today. I'm already half brain dead. I herx on this stuff immediately (starting about 30 minutes after I take it) and stay in a constant herx (mostly neuro/migraine headache type stuff)the entire time I'm on it.

I would really love to find this product as it sounds like it might help this some.

Thanks for responding.

CAT

Posted by Sue (Member # 5671) on :

How many drops of Samento are you taking ? I was told to start with only ONE drop in 1/2 c water on an empty stomach and work my way up, adding 1 -2 drops each week.................

Posted by lymeinboston (Member # 3173) on :

I believe Silphex is Silphium Laciniatum. It is on the Dr.s website. I did a search and he owns a naturaceutical company. Check it out under one of the Links at the top under Lyme Amonia. Keep reading. It is in there...
Ed

Posted by Cat (Member # 5595) on :

Hi Sue,

I started with 1 drop in 4 oz of water once per day because that's all that I could handle. I think I stayed on this dosage for at least a week because I herxed so badly I couldn't move up the dosage.

I eventually worked up to 10 drops 2x/day but my neuro symptoms were so bad at that point I had to take a break. After taking the Samento for 4 weeks, I took a break for a week.

Today I am starting again and I took 2 drops this AM. I always leave at least 30 minutes to an hour on either side of taking it with no food or drink. I already have a sinus headache/confusion/memory issues pretty bad.

Be very respectful of the Samento. It is very powerful stuff. Of course, I suppose your reaction will also depend on the length of your illness/bug load.

lymeinboston,
I guess I didn't look quite hard enough at the website. I will go back and look again. Thanks very, very much for this info.

CAT

Posted by liz28 on :

I've had some luck with NAC and phosphatidylcholine (both at high doses) for clearing up neuro herxes.

When I started on saventaro, I had the same experience. Just 30mg made me sleep for two days and have Carlos Casteneda-type nightmares. But after a couple of weeks, the herxing calmed down and now saventaro is one of the best supplements I have.

Posted by DiffyQue (Member # 3317) on :

Hi All,

Following the protocol, which is somehwere on this and other sites, is extremely important. It starts with one drop, and the dose is incremented so much at a time, on given days, and according to symptoms, and so on.
I would not play "herbal chicken" with this stuff, and instead really read-up on it.

I have a bottle of Samento, but have yet to start it.