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Posted by lymiecanuck on :

HI Mom's

If you know or suspect your child was born with lyme, did they develop sharp fang like teeth by the eye tooth or in that spot. Teenagers with baby teeth still,or no adult teeth to grow into spaces.

I have this and was told it was rare, and not often seen, I also have 4 baby teeth still and am 33 years old.

My son has his toddler teeth and has sharp fang like teeth in exactly same spot as mine. But I never had it as baby teeth only as adult teeth. I find this strange and am wondering if lyme mom's are seeing this. Maybe it is nothing by dna damage or something like that, that will continue in generations. My parents didn't have this though.

Very curious if there is a trend. Thanks for the responses.

Lymiecanuck

Posted by TheCrimeOfLyme (Member # 4019) on :

No

Posted by SandyL (Member # 5983) on :

Yes!

I got the "fangs" as an adult. My daughter, born with Lyme, has them in the same spot.

My son, born with Lyme, missing one of his front adult teeth.

Hmmmm.....

Posted by lookin4answers (Member # 4974) on :

Strang that you mention all that.
Are you sure they are missing or just need to be found?
I ask this because I had both of my bottom jaw teeth, oppisite of one another, found under my tounge, I would say almost an inch from where they were suppose to be.
They had never seen it before. They put a little button on each tooth, after having oral surgery to expose them, and pulled them both up by bands connected to braces.

My 7yr old seems normal so far in the teeth area, sorta. Has already had 3 places filled, and I do make her brush and she has been going to the dentist regular since she was 4!

The 14 monther, well can not tell yet.....
Would you believe the poor child only has 2 middle bottom teeth all the way in and 4 top teeth that JUST cut through, and no other bottom teeth coming in except a jaw tooth!
That just seems odd to me, but hey, she is STILL not walking. (I am trying to blame that on the chronic ear infections since she has been here, ya think?)

Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :

Yes... Very sharp and pointed eye teeth from a young age... and the 2 around it were that way. Had to be "shaved off". None of the rest of my family had this.

I had to have 6 baby teeth pulled in my teens and some more again in my 20's to make room for adult teeth to come through. I still have some baby teeth.. a few under the gums wisdom teeth.. baby ones.. if they weren't extracted already.

I never connected this to Lyme before... don't know if it is something that CAN be connected at this point. Interesting poll though...

Posted by SandyL (Member # 5983) on :

I think we are on to something with the teeth..... I never thought about it before either. But my "fangs" are so sharp they had to be shaved too.

My son (born with Lyme) is definately missing the front tooth on the top. The dentist said it is strange because usually only happens due to genetics - but that doesn't apply in our family.

And both my kids have the fangs! (

Posted by Limping Lily (Member # 5099) on :

this is a really strange topic for me to address- my husband had huge, protruding fang teeth,and out of my 4 kids, the oldest had the same, and the third has one weird skinny fang plastered above the 2 adjoining teeth. i had always assumed that my kids bad teeth were due to a genetic problem (small jaw/big teeth), but now i'm wondering if some of their problems are due to my chronic lyme being passed on - there are too many other physical problems in my kids to be just random anomalies. my older son even complains about joint pains,migraine type headaches,etc., but insists that it CAN'T be lyme. right... anyway, i thought that all these dental problems were kind of rare, but i found you all talking about the exact same problems- what are the odds of that in a given patient population? what are all your thoughts on this?

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Posted by lymiecanuck on :

This is very intersting. I also have wisdoms under the gums. I never had them removed because they scared me with the thought of nerve damage, which they warn you about. Wish I had of done it now.

Anyone else with werid teeth problems?
Lymiecanuck

Posted by lymebrat (Member # 3208) on :

No fangs,

but both my children's new teeth are coming in with streaks on them. And one of Derek's front teeth actually came in with a little hole on the surface. ( I think the dentist called it a calcification?)

When I asked Dr.Jones about it, he said it was common with kids who have Lyme.

Anyone else have this??

~LymeBrat

Posted by lookin4answers (Member # 4974) on :

Ok y'all ....this is strange.

Wonder if there really is a connection?

I did happen to think of a few other things.

My mom knew better so,I never as a child sucked on lemons, which would be the most common reason your enamal would be stripped off your teeth. Mine is stripped off the front teeth.
Also had extreme overbite (no one else in family with this)....just to throw that in. Had to wear one of those HUGE retainers for 2 years! You know the kind that you could hardly understand someone when they talked! Crazy, I do not see anyone today having to do that to pull the jaw out.

I had to have all 4 wisdom teeth CUT out for my mouth did not have the room.

Who knows.
Like TC said, I am enjoying this poll too. (obviously)

Posted by lymiecanuck on :

Hi,

Missed the posts and answering now. Interesting about the enamel, my was gone in spots in front teeth. I had the fangs shaved and got veneers years ago.

The dentist at the time said malnutrution which wasn't disbuted cause was not taken care of properly when very young. Who knows though.

Take Care
Lymiecanuck

Posted by lymiecanuck on :

Hi,

Thought I would bring this up for more respones, as I have to go to the dentist today, and was doing a search.

My jaw which bothers me off and on is bad again, but my teeth on that side (gums) are inflamed, so need to make sure I don't have an abscess, and of course the wisdoms which are still there are acting up.

I also did start biaxin last week and did flagyl for one day so far so wondering if the keets which are no doubt hanging out there are having a party, face is swolleing now and ear hurts etc.

A little worried, so wish me luck

Lymiecanuck

Posted by Sue vG (Member # 3143) on :

I have fangs but I'm 50 years old. I doubt that I was born with lyme. It may be a marker for susceptability, though.

Makes for interesting speculation.

Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :

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Originally posted by Sue vG:
I have fangs but I'm 50 years old. I doubt that I was born with lyme. It may be a marker for susceptability, though.
Makes for interesting speculation.

Yes, it is interesting and kind of strange.

I'm a couple of years younger and have fangs, although they're much more worn down now. (I doubt I was born with lyme but who knows?)

I also had 5 baby and 4 permanent teeth pulled to put braces on when I was 12. (My permanent teeth grew in behind some of the baby teeth and my jaw was too small.) I look less like a walrus now.

All four wisdom teeth were impacted; 3 of which did, just, break throught the gums but there's no room on my jaw for them. The 4th one is sideways up in my sinuses. (The first time I saw an x-ray of it, I freaked.)

Posted by docdave130 on :

missing adult teeth, unussual primary teeth,
and peg lateral incisors, along with extra teeth (supernumerary) bicuspids, wisdom teeth, are 99% genetic.
there is 1 genetic disease that causes this directly but usually it is a genetic mutation brought down from previous generations in your family.
it is not caused by lyme to my knowledge.
it is not uncommon and maybe 10% of the population has 1 or more of the above problems. that's genetic life for you.

Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :

There is a condition where children of people
who have syphilis will have an odd tooth defect.
Syphilis is caused by a spirochete, as is Lyme.

Hutchinson teeth (notched)
http://www.kcom.edu/faculty/chamberlain/Website/lectures/lecture/image/notchinc.gif
http://www.cst.cmich.edu/users/alm1ew/congenitalsyphilisteeth.gif

Sorry about the stretched page.
Carol

Posted by Kaykay (Member # 6732) on :

I still have 2 baby teeth with no replacements, and my wisdom teeth have never erupted or been pulled. The dentist watches them, but they haven't moved.

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KayKay

Posted by Lymeindunkirk (Member # 7118) on :

My sons eye teeth were odd as well. The orthordontist had them pulled because xrays showed his perm. teeth coming in sideways. He has had braces since age 9 on his top teeth and they are nice and straight already. He also has perm. white spots on both front teeth. The dentist has tried to tell me the teeth were damaged when he had a high fever as a baby. I keep telling him my son didn't have high fevers. His temp has always been below normal. The highest his temp has ever been was 102.00 briefly. sometimes now my son will feel cold. We take his temp and its 95.6. Most of the time its 97.5. Anyone with white spots on their teeth?

Posted by docdave130 on :

please read my post.
these fangs are called peg laterals and are genetic in nature not from lyme, also missing teeth, and extra teeth.there are only to very rare genetic diseases that cause this and lyme is not one of them
they cane be bonded to look just like natural teeth by a good dds