GiGi
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Symptoms of Chronic Mercury Toxicity
CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM
Irritability Anxiety/nervousness, often with difficulty breathing Restlessness Exaggerated response to stimulation Fearfulness Emotional instability Lack of self control Fits of anger, with violet irrational behaviour Loss of self confidentce Indecision Shyness or timidity, being easily embarrassed Loss of memory Inability to concentrate Lethargy/drowsiness Insomnia Mental depression, despondency Withdrawal Suicidal tendencies Manic depression Numbness and tingling of hands, feet, fingers, toes or lips Muscle weakness progressing to paralysis Ataxia Tremors/trembling of hands, feet lips, eyelids or tongue Incoordination Myoneural transmission failure resembling Myasthenia Gravis Motor neuron disease (ALS) Multiple sclerosis
HEAD, NECK, ORAL CAVITY DISORDERS
Bleeding gums Alveolar bone loss Loosening of teeth Excessive salivation Foul breath Metallic taste Burning sensation with tingling of lips, face Tissue pigmentation (amalgam tattoo of gums) Leukoplakia Stomatitis Ulceration of Gingiva, palate, tongue, Dizziness/acute, chronic vertigo Ringing in the ears Hearing difficulties Speech and visual impairment Glaucoma Restricted, dim vision
GASTROINTESTINAL EFFECTS
Food sensitivities, especially to milk and eggs Abdominal cramps, colitis, diverticulitis or other GI complaints Chronic diarrhea/constipation
CARDIOVASCULAR EFFECTS
Abnormal heart rhythm Characteristic findings on EKG Abnormal changes in the S-T segment and/or lower Broadened P wave Unexplained elevated cholesterol Abnormal blood pressure, either high or low
IMMUNOLOGIC
Repeated infections Viral and fungal Mycobacterial Candida and other yeast infections Cancer Autoimmune disorders Arthritis Lupus eryth Multiple sclerosis Scleroderma Amyolateral sclerosis (ALS) Hypothyroidism
SYSTEMIC EFFECTS
Chronic headaches Allergies Severe dermatitis Unexplained reacxtivity Thyroid disturbance Subnormal body temperature Cold, clammy skin, especiall hands and feet Excessive perspiration w/frequent night sweats Unexplained sensory symptoms, including pain Unexplained numbness or burning sensations Unexplained anemia G-6-PD deficiency Chronic kidney disease Nephrotic syndrome Receiving renal dialysis Kidney infection Adrenal disease General fatigue Loss of appetite with or without weight loss Loss of weight hypoglycemia
(Amalgam Detox/1999 DK)
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In other words symptoms of lyme disease!
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GiGi
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Yes, Lisa, with the added comment that the mercury toxicity is the most common underlying problem, i.e. mercury toxicity was present in the majority of cases before the Lyme exposure. The average person has 8 mercury fillings and many children are born with mercury toxicity via placenta. Mercury toxicity is an open invitation to bacterial and viral infections for many.
Take care.
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well, sorry to burst your bubble,
but there are many factors with mercury toxicity.
I for one went through a serious depression and all I did was search through the forums on mercury toxicity and cried thinking that was my problem for a year.
The more I search I found people that had all their fillings removed and had no difference in their sickness.
On the other hand there also were those who had them removed and they got better.
The question is why is the body not detoxing enough to handle not just the mercury but the other toxins?
I belive this is the greater question here.
Dont get me wrong, im not saying that its not important, but it does stand as a symptom and not a direct causative factor.
There are many many.....to the 1,000,000,000 th
factors. This I do know and I feel confedent that youll agree that there is no panacea in this world for our troubles.
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GiGi
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Lymeherx101, I just stumbled across this post of yours, and I realize I never answered.
You will find the answer to your question or my response to your remarks on the new post I just put up a while ago entitled "this is not a new subject"
You will find a full explanation to the problem - not from a lay person such as me, but from a doctor who has treated chronic illness for many, many years. He happens to be our doctor. I would recommend that you read it very carefully.
In short, taking the fillings out, does not do the trick. That is just like turning off the heater when you start to smell gas! That's the first order in toxicology, eliminate the source. Then comes the detox part - that is not easy, but very do-able. We as an aged couple did it. And many others did it.
Take care.
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GiGi, how long did it take you to complete your chelation program? Did you find a more pronounced decrease in your symptoms from chelation or from abx therapy?
I've been chelating for about 6 months and I don't really notice a reduction in symptoms.
Have read several of your posts which are very hlepful and wanted to know if you posted the protocol you and your husband did?
I did a search and could not come up with anything. Is it possible to post what you did and how you did and how long it took? Several of us would appreciate it if you could.
Also, can you remove fillings, detox mercury, and treat lyme all at the same time? My thought is the mercury detox and any teeth issues needs to be done first, then lyme tx needs to follow.
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Have read several of your posts which are very hlepful and wanted to know if you posted the protocol you and your husband did?
I did a search and could not come up with anything. Is it possible to post what you did and how you did and how long it took? Several of us would appreciate it if you could.
Also, can you remove fillings, detox mercury, and treat lyme all at the same time? My thought is the mercury detox and any teeth issues needs to be done first, then lyme tx needs to follow.
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GiGi
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Lymelighter,
sorry I missed your question.
If you have not noticed any reduction in symptoms when chelating, it depends if it is done properly. Very few doctors really understand it. Even if done in the right sequence and with the proper agents, it can take months and it can take 2-3-4 years. It most likely took you years to deposit the mercury, etc. somewhere, gradually, and it will probably follow a similar course coming out. Our body cannot handle it faster, or our kidney and other organs will be hurt.
The symptoms should start to reduce, but eliminating the total overload can take time. It is quite difficult to coax it out of the brain, where so many people store it.
I hope you are working with a good doctor. It took me about 3 years. It took my husband longer to be symptom-free, because besides mercury he was also dealing with excess aluminum in his brain. Different metals are treated with different means.
He also fractured his back through a fall in the midst of all this, and while he was dealing with this, the emphasis was not on metals. Age may play a factor, and he may still be releasing some of the deposits sporadically. A small dish of chlorella is always standing around in our house, just in case.
Snowboarder,
I am trying to get together all the different therapies and treatments we did. But since right now it is cooky-baking time with my little granddaughter and painting and doing all these surprise Christmas presents, I am just too occupied. And it is so much fun to have a happy little girl bouncing around thrilled to paint a rock for a paperweight for her Mommy and Daddy! It lets you forget a lot of the misery that's out there, but I do so wish that your year ahead will be as happy as ours will be. We had a wonderful year, with my husband finally turning well, and the next one will be even better. It was a long time in coming! All good things to you and all of you.
Take care. And I will list all that I think is pertinent soon. Just sort of look for it.
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I am trying to get together all the different therapies and treatments we did. But since right now it is cooky-baking time with my little granddaughter and painting and doing all these surprise Christmas presents, I am just too occupied. And it is so much fun to have a happy little girl bouncing around thrilled to paint a rock for a paperweight for her Mommy and Daddy! It lets you forget a lot of the misery that's out there, but I do so wish that your year ahead will be as happy as ours will be. We had a wonderful year, with my husband finally turning well, and the next one will be even better. It was a long time in coming! All good things to you and all of you.
Take care. And I will list all that I think is pertinent soon. Just sort of look for it
GiGi,
I'll be on the lookout and thanks for getting back to me. Is Chlorella something I can take right away?
Had a hair analysis and mercury and uranium are high on my list. My dr. says uranium is from the state I live in..not sure about that one.
You mentioned your granddaughter uses it and was wondering if my 8 year old could take it? My daughter does have lyme and we have her first LLMD appointment Decmeber 23.
Happy baking!
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Lymelighter
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Gigi, Thanks for the info. Ive been on DMSA oral & Chlorella for awhile, and 3 months of IV Glutathione. I'm due for a challenge test to see where my Mercury level is at. Granted, the challenge is a subjective test, according to my environmental MD.
Snow, Chlorella comes in tablet form an I take it daily in quantity.
quote:Originally posted by lymeHerx001: well, sorry to burst your bubble,
but there are many factors with mercury toxicity.
I for one went through a serious depression and all I did was search through the forums on mercury toxicity and cried thinking that was my problem for a year.
The more I search I found people that had all their fillings removed and had no difference in their sickness.
On the other hand there also were those who had them removed and they got better.
The question is why is the body not detoxing enough to handle not just the mercury but the other toxins?
I belive this is the greater question here.
Dont get me wrong, im not saying that its not important, but it does stand as a symptom and not a direct causative factor.
There are many many.....to the 1,000,000,000 th
factors. This I do know and I feel confedent that youll agree that there is no panacea in this world for our troubles.
A lot of that has to do with the fact that not every dentist A. takes the right precautions to avoid exposing the patient to MORE mercury during removal and B. knows how to properly detox the body. Not all people are created equal, so mercury removal is different for everyone.
GiGi
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Yes, Discobox, I agree. Since I have been familiar witht the subject of dental toxicity for years now, I have never run into a dentist that really could handle the detox part of the problem also. It has also found that since the other infections (viral, fungal, parasitic, etc.) are closely tied to the mercury problem besides the Lyme infections, it is much better to find a medical doctor who understands the multiple infection approach to deal with the detoxification of the metals and chemicals.
These (microorganisms) are all intertwined -- they are very territorial and one tries to take over when the other one has been "reduced" and we are not dealing only with the metals/chemicals after the fillings/dental work has been done.
This is also the reason why I want to stress that detoxing and chelating is not a do-it-yourself job. I do so wish it were, believe me. Two people have gone through this in our house.
Take care.
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GiGi, You are the exact person I NEED to talk to since you have MUCH experience with this. I am going to completely clean my mouth of the mercury fillings(multiple) in EVERY tooth and I am not sure what is in the capped teeth. I do know I have two silver points which I have already been told to have those removed and teeth recapped. Well since I dont have any thing to work with any more I am going to have them ALL removed at once. I want to be sure, as my LLMD emphasises, that they go clear down into the jaw bone and clean it all out, very thouroughly. Any thoughts as to how to have that done? My next step is how to go about the de-tox? I live in the midwest so dont have the experts the coastal areas have. Only person I even remotely know is 120 miles away, and could be a quack, for all I know. All I know is he has an ad in the yellow pages. How do you find one of these people(professional) and competent to do it right? So much to learn, so little ability to do so here. I am not here very much because much too busy keeping my head above water. I would ask if you could maybe e-mail me when you have time and give me directions or your experienced thoughts. I am thinking this is also a problem. So far even after all they treat me for I "CANNOT" get them to even do the test and see if it shows up. Any idea of a ballpark cost on Mercury/ Aluminium test? And is there a symtom list for aluminum tox also??? What was your husbands main problems? I am sort of desperate for improvement here and havent seen an iota in over 3 years of heavy duty abx. Not saying its not helping, maybe slightly at very best. Hard to quantify!!! I have a head turning salt tablet story that NOBODY can explain. Wondering IF there is a relationship? Or how many metals can they test for at once. We have metal toxicity in our plants here in certain circumstances so why not humans? I await your ideas and suggestions. respectfully, --just don--
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GiGi
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Hi Don, go to the following sites - you will find a lot of info. You probably will also find referral lists, etc. www.neuraltherapy.com - my doctor's website, he has a referral list and I think there is an ND in Nebraska. No clue where you are. www.bioray.comwww.healthydetox.comwww.bio-probe.com
I am very familiar with the doctor/scientist at the first two - lots of info exchange between him and my doctor.
Try to find someone that can muscle test or do ART, for your detox. You cannot do it alone.
In the meantime, if you think you have an alu problem, start with 1T of organic apple cider vinegar in glass of water 3x daily. Also take bath with it. The drug Desferal is used - I used to inject my husband to get the alu out.
Feel free to call me - e-mail me first - if I can help.
Doctors Data in Chicago do the test - includes all the toxic metals that might be at toxic levels, including aluminum. It also shows the mineral levels, which is often quite helpful. If you are mercury toxic, you most likely are low in sodium and calcium. That's a typical picture. But.
If you think you are aluminum toxic, the symptoms are identical to mercury as they are to Lyme. Neuro symptoms are all the same - and that is why so many people think they are battling Lyme while in reality they are battling metals. After 3 years, I think it's time for you to check into this.
Whether mercury or alu or any other metal, the symptoms are identical to Lyme. If anyone can tell the difference, I never could; neither could my doctor. Neuro symptoms are neuro symptoms.
Often heavy metal toxic people are very sensitive to electromagnetic exposure, vibrations, sensation of electricity flowing in body or head.
Usually, if you have all teeth removed, if the jawbone is involved, a surgeon will only do one half at a time. It is too stressful - you will be releasing a ton of stuff and need to be prepared with chlorella (loaded before you go in and immediately following - lots of it).
Feel free to call - e-mail me first. It's easier than asking questions and answering back and forth. Glad to help.
Take care.
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GiGi,
BINGO, You said" Often heavy metal toxic people are very sensitive to electromagnetic exposure, vibrations, sensation of electricity flowing in body or head. " I have related that to docs for 15 years and they all look at me like I am a crazy nut case. (Well Maybe?) When I have my hands on or near a electric motor it sends my inerds into gastro duress. EVEN driving a car with the alternator is enough plus the motion. no explanations ever, they just said they never heard of any thing like that before. There cant be THAT many explnations to this phenom so I am reading all I can. Exausted right now, will start again later. Thank you, thank you , thank you for at last heading me in some direction with this weirdo sx. --just don--
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GiGi
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if you can't sleep, think of mercury toxicity.
If you had your fillings out, but never went on a thorough heavy metal elimination program, it can be that the metals are still disturbing your system. The mercury "escapes" into the rest of the body starting immediately after placement of the amalgam fillings. Removing them is only a small part of a correction. It has to be followed by a heavy metal detox program that can take several years with most people. But things are getting better as the body burden of neurotoxin is lowered.
This is an old post, but nothing about mercury has changed. It's a poison that should have never been put into our mouth.
Everybody should at least be aware of this.
Take good care.
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Look up the word erethism...I believe it was coined to describe the characteristic abnormalities of hatmakers of the 19th century who were exposed to mercury vapors in the felt preparation process for hats.
They went mad, hence the term "mad as a hatter".
They didn't all go mad immediately upon exposure, it takes time for the accumulation to reach a threshold, and that threshold is determined by multiple factors in each individual.
Since it is the charge of the liver and kidneys to handle toxic load, when that threshold is reached, the function of those two organ systems becomes impaired, and their other duties become impaired, specifically the modification of cholecalciferol (vit. D), first in the liver where it is converted into its 25 hydroxy form, then in the kidney, where it is modified again into the 1,25 dihydroxy form.
The disturbance in vitamin D metabolism leaves the body subject to all manner of metabolic dysregulation.
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