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Posted by DELT/3 on :
 
hi everyone/happy christmas.

i have to have b shots every day in the arm thats fine and really it doesnt bother me /

but does any of one get magnesim shots in the rear.

its supose to go into the muscle and since i take them every three days/ im finding it still hurts.

maybe.

im not doing right/

did anyone of you have these?
and
how did you give to yourself without much discomfort.feels like a bee sting for a few mins then hurts for a day or so./ sometimes even longer.

also itches too

if there is another muscle that is less painful maybe? i would try but im afraid to try.

nobody showed us how to do this/

they just told us over phone/ were to put it and that the b goes 45 angle /and magn straight into muscle

but no-one says how fast or how slow to put it in
any help would be great

thank you
debbie
 


Posted by WildCondor on :
 
I do magnesium shots too, they just sting, period. They hurt going in and they hurt afterwards, its nothing you are doing wrong. Make sure you are taught how to properly do the shots. You must inject in the upper outer butt cheek and pull back on the syringe to make sure you have not hit a vein. If you see blood in the syringe when you pull back, you have to pull it out and re-inject in a different spot.
Mag shots just sting, taking a how shower after does help.
:-) Time for my sting actually.

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Posted by DELT/3 on :
 
thank for the info at least we know now not doing it wrong is the butt muscle the only place to give it and what would happen if it did get into vein (die) get real ,sick?
or maybe just really more painful

i am one to take much pain but theses suckers hurt for long time and one more thing how fast do you push it in ?

this i great i have hubby do butt shot/ and boy after iv for year and all the trouble with picc line he gets kind of woozie

this outa take him right over the edge if i tell him to pull up and check for blood/

ill be picking him up off the floor__LOL/
thank you i am a little releived/

do you also take every three days/
thank debbie

[This message has been edited by DELT/3 (edited 26 December 2004).]
 


Posted by RECIPEGIRL (Member # 5884) on :
 
Hi Delt/3,

I don't know about magnesium shots at all. So what I'm telling you may not apply to magnesium.


But I have had 180 Rocephin injections which my poor husband gave me. These were given VERY slow-----like 3 or 4 minutes.


If it started pinching, it was stopped until the pain was gone & then resumed. But of course, these were mixed with 1% Xylocaine or I couldn't have done them at all.


I give myself B12 injections with a tiny insulin syringe (which are great). I also give them very slowly. It makes a great difference.


But if the magnesium shots burn like Wild Condor said, then I don't know if that will help.


My husband also gave me weekly glutathione with ATP injections in the thigh. Gosh, they burned like fire for just a minute.


Actually, the needle was huge. I should have used an insulin syringe as suggested by a compounding pharmacist that sells glutathione injections.


But I purchased the shots at the doctor's office. So I just used their big needle. I soon got tired of the needle in the thigh. Too much for me.


Hope some others come along with other tips.

Take Care,
Jan

 


Posted by DELT/3 on :
 
thanks
yea i use the small needle for both/

but it still does not help with mag /

but as long as i now it is not unusal to hurt

im not as worried about if i am doing it wrong =

b shots are easy cant even feel them/
thank you for your time happy holidays and best wishes
debra kopacsi
 


Posted by Poochini (Member # 3534) on :
 
Have you tried using a topical lidocaine and then icing for a couple of minutes before injecting? Numbness helps with the bicillin shots. Then again, bicillin shots come with lidocaine that is injected.

I bought a 5% lidocaine from a Canadian website. In the US it is only 2%.

Sorry the shots are such a pain the butt.


 


Posted by kgg (Member # 5867) on :
 
My husband gives me a magnesium injection once a week. His shots hurt less than the office nurse! We use a 1/2cc of xylocaine with the magnesium. Keep the xylocaine in the refrigerator but allow the shot to come to room temp before giving it. Also, allow the alcohol to dry on your skin before giving the shot. These two actions should help with the sting. Lastly, make sure you are rotating your injection sites. They need to go in your hip or buttocks because of the amount of liquid in the syringe. It will still itch but should hurt less.

Magnesium has helped me the most of all supplements.
BW,
Karen
 


Posted by DELT/3 on :
 
hip do you mean closest to hip but still in butt /

or when i think of hip i think on my side and in- between hipbone and butt.is that ok
is that good enough muscle

and the needles are real small hubby has trouble putting magnesium in syrnge because of thickness.

maybe wrong needle too/

and

what the heck is that other stuff you said to put on first xylocaine.

/where do i get it and how fast do you put the meds in real fast? med fast? or real slow?

and just so you know

i have not received either one of these shots by any nurse or doctor./
ever!

we call my nurse but she has not come back since i have taken a break on iv./

even though she doesnt even know it yet.

they are not used to someone being on iv for a year/
so they just get tired of me.

and stop calling . oh well im used to that they know nothing about lyme
just its some diease that is from a tick.?? anyway?


we are doing this all by ourselfs from begining.

if i had received shot first from office i would of at least have known they are suppose to hurt/

but when doing by ones self you really dont know what to expect or what is the right reaction

thank you for help
debbie
 


Posted by kgg (Member # 5867) on :
 
http://devweb3.vip.ohio-state.edu/Materials/PDFDocs/medicatn/geninfo/intrainj.pdf

The above link is a very good source of info on giving IM injections. They also include info on the amount of fluid that can be injected per site. Do not give the magnesium injection in your arm, it is too much fluid for that site.

The size needle I use for my IM injections is 3ml 25g1.

The xylocaine that I mentioned is a numbing medicine that they use prior to giving stitches. You need a prescription to get it. You would draw up 1/2 ml of xylocaine first, then draw up the magnesium in the same syringe. It is stored in the refrigerator to prevent the formation of crystals, which would add to the irratation in the muscle. We just draw up the med and let it sit in the syringe at room temperature for 10 minutes.

Magnesium should be given fairly slowly because it is a lot of fluid, but not 3-4 minutes like other shots. Just push steadily on the plunger in a slow manner.

Hope this info helps,
Karen

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Posted by James H (Member # 6380) on :
 
Debbie,

If you are switching to a smaller needle thinking this will make the shots more comfortable, make sure the ones you are using are long enough.

If the needle is not quite long enough and the injection goes into either fat or in the muscle but shallow you will have more discomfort. Deep into the muscle is more comfortable, strange as that may sound.

Regarding the guage of the needle, you will find there is very little difference in comfort between very skinny needles and larger ones *IF* they are sharp.

You will want to use a large enough guage to allow the thick liquid to pass through reasonably well without clogging.

Also, when you insert a needle through a rubber stopper to draw up medicine it dulls the point, sometimes alot. Get some extra needles and put on a new one to give the shot.



 


Posted by suvvyb (Member # 6474) on :
 
Sounds like you got lots of good advice, but another thing to keep in mind when you are doing lots of IM injections is that some people will grow scar-like tissue, calcifications or other "ickies", when you give injections in the same place for a long period of time...and some times it doesn't even take that long if your body just doesn't want you sticking needles in there.

It makes the injection slightly painful (rather than just sliding in, it kind of crunches in past all that gunk...most unpleasant).
 


Posted by guiney (Member # 4550) on :
 
HI Debbie, yes you've got great, experienced advice.

I give myself a vit. b12 shot every other day in my thigh muscle.

I go back and forth on my thighs. My nurse showed me how to do it. She said to have the needle go straight in, then pull up a little to check for blood, then quickly pull up and out!

It's like a quick bee sting but my thighs are never sore afterwards.

I did have Roc. shots like RECIPEGIRL which hurt ALOT!!!

I also had Bicillin shots too---OUCH!! But I was allergic to them so I had to stop that.

Good Luck!!!

guiney

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