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Posted by mimi (Member # 6680) on :
 
I am wondering if anyone's Dr. has informed them of the transmission of Lyme's disease. Some sites list sexual transmission through semen while others list blood and other bodily fluids. Is saliva or vaginal fluids one of those bodily fluids?
 
Posted by zipzip (Member # 6226) on :
 
sexual transmission of lyme disease have been far from proven, but has been theorized.

transmission in placenta (by birth) has been proven. though that should not make one conclude that borrelia (lyme) is indeed transmissable by sex. lyme is not an std.

lyme is not transmitted by saliva. i can't speak of blood but it most doubtful. i have yet to read a case of lyme transmitted by blood.

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Posted by mimi (Member # 6680) on :
 
Have women passed it on to their husbands?
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Originally posted by zipzip:
sexual transmission of lyme disease have been far from proven, but has been theorized.

transmission in placenta (by birth) has been proven. though that should not make one conclude that borrelia (lyme) is indeed transmissable by sex. lyme is not an std.

lyme is not transmitted by saliva. i can't speak of blood but it most doubtful. i have yet to read a case of lyme transmitted by blood.

[This message has been edited by zipzip (edited 26 December 2004).]



 


Posted by zipzip (Member # 6226) on :
 
lyme is not an std. is it possible for a women to pass to her partner? i have no idea.

i am neither an md nor a biochemist. i have never seen a spirochete under a microscope.

it's plausible, but their is no good science to back it up, at this point.
 


Posted by twoangie (Member # 1636) on :
 
mimi,

From everything I have read and heard, I believe Lyme is found in all bodily fluids - even tears. I know some people who swear they have infected their partners - and this includes women as well as men.

Do a search on sexual transmission and you will find more information from previous posts on this topic.

Angie
 


Posted by zipzip (Member # 6226) on :
 
not to be pompous, by any means, but the above poster is stating their opinoin, and the opinoins of others.

word of mouth is not a suitable replacement for scientific discovery and clinical observation. i don't want you to get the wrong impression from misinformation.

lyme has been cultured in vivo from an infected person's skin tissue (at site of infection), blood, spinal fluid, joint tissue, bone marrow, lymph nodes, semen, urine and breast milk.

as stated it is known to be passed via mother from the placenta to a fetus.

where lyme has been cultured from and its transmissability are two VERY seperate things.

if it was passed by sweat or tears everyone a lyme person came in contact with would be more or less infected.

this is like people who claim that aids is spread by sweat or tears. it's just not true.

lyme is not an std, though it is a spirochete illness.

syphillis, another spirochete illness can be passed by sexual tranmission. so the possibility of sexual transmission transmitting lyme is possible, yet not at all proven.

 


Posted by auntybiotic1499 (Member # 2998) on :
 
There have been research articles by a Dr. Bock that lyme is transmitted sexually via semen. Go to your search engine and type in Lymesexual transmission Dr.Bock and you maycome across the article.

In my opinion, like syphlis, which is also a spirochete which is highly contagious,,,,,,,,,,,,,,why should lyme..which is also a spirochete not be???

So much is unknown regarding lyme disease.

aunty


 


Posted by zipzip (Member # 6226) on :
 
dr's bock (there are 2 brothers) have never published articles concerning lyme and sexual transmission to my knowledge.

they may have made clinical observations though.

and i agree lyme spirochetes, like syphillis, may be transmitted via intercourse (which i haven't had in a long time due to lyme, lol) but like i said that is not unequivocally proven...

but nothing concerning lyme is unequicovally proven except the fact that it is spread by those damned ticks!

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Posted by lla2 (Member # 2364) on :
 
my ex husband got lyme from me...definitely!

Lisa
 


Posted by snowboarder (Member # 6346) on :
 
I asked my LLMD that last week and he says no however, my husband was infected a a child 41 years ago and has had the bulls eye rash five times.

Prior to meeting my husband 17 years ago I had no symptoms but after a few years, I started to have some strange things come up until being dx this year.

In my opinion I think it could be but just don't know for sure.


 


Posted by twoangie (Member # 1636) on :
 
zipzip,

I respectfully disagree with you. Additionally, I've been a member of this board for over 3 years and I also do a LOT of research so I'm not just blowing off steam when I state that I believe this. Frankly, you are just stating your own opinions on this matter as well since it has barely been studied. I would think, that if we were to error on one side or another then it would be to the side of caution, to that of protecting those we care about and insuring that they don't become infected.

Oh, and I don't think that someone crying will automatically infect someone else. However, if the other person were to have an exposed and open wound that were to become wet from the infected person's tears...then, I would say there is a risk. I believe it is the same with AIDS. It doesn't enter through closed skin but an open wound provides easy access to the bloodstream.

Take care,

Angie
 


Posted by Semper Fi (Member # 3051) on :
 
I infected my wife with lyme. You need to use protection, until you are cured.
 


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