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Posted by jmardis (Member # 6643) on :
 
I am having pain on my left side below my rib cage but above my hip bone. It is on the outside in both front and back. This has been going on since Oct. off and on. But now it is tender to touch.

Is this a lyme symptom or something else going on (kidney?)? Any suggestings would be appreciated.

Thanks again.
 


Posted by Beverly (Member # 1271) on :
 
Hi jmardis,

I'm sorry you are having this pain. I would talk to your doctor about it, just to make sure everything is ok.

I have had pain on the left side, but it doesn't last..a couple of days then it's gone for months, but I am used to it..have had intestional stuff all my life. I once was oput on Amoxicillin for a tooth infection and my intestional stuff cleared up..could never figure out why unitl now...

I hope you find out what it is and that your kidney is ok.


 


Posted by jmardis (Member # 6643) on :
 
Thanks Beverly.

Did you ever have it checked out?


 


Posted by artbyjessie2 on :
 
be very careful here - could be your spleen. i had this and my spleen was quite enlarged. this was before i was DXed.
 
Posted by Kara Tyson (Member # 939) on :
 
This could be the sign of the start of shingles.
 
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
Here are a couple of ideas.

One sided symptoms

"Trace mineral symptoms of excess or deficiency are generally one-sided, depending on their ratios to

other chemical members, and depending which group they are neurologically assigned to. In the event

of calcification, it is not a high calcium level that results in the formation of a stone or spur, but calcium

being high in ratio to associated or interactive elements.

For instance, phosphorus and zinc have both left-sided cell receptors, so if either level is low in ratio to

calcium, calcification would only take place on the left side of the body, whereas the cell receptors of

manganese or magnesium are right-sided, as a result, any calcification would develop on the right side

of the body only.

The same rules apply to most nutrition-related inflammatory or degenerative conditions, so successful,

non-symptomatic treatments require the application of those same principles. Since intracellular and
serum levels of nutrients represent different physiological and pathological processes, abnormal levels

seen in one medium are not necessarily reflected in the other, so they need to be interpreted differently."
http://www.acu-cell.com/sni.html

"Common problems that can cause left-sided pain include heart conditions, stomach ulcers, and colon problems. See your family doctor to begin this process." (diagnosis)
www.medinfosource.com/expert/exp4102003b.html

Likely colon...are you taking a LOT of good probiotics one hour before meals with a glass of water?

To rid H.Pylori and Bb in the GI tract...there are OTC supplements...

Int Microbiol. 2001 Dec;4(4):209-15. Related Articles, Links

Susceptibility of motile and cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi to ranitidine bismuth citrate.

Brorson O, Brorson SH.

Department of Microbiology, Vestfold Sentralsykehus, Tonsberg, Norway.

Gastrointestinal symptoms accompanying Lyme disease have not been considered in the treatment of Lyme patients yet. Here we examine the effect of ranitidine bismuth citrate (RBC) on motile and cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi in vitro, to determine whether it could cure this bacterial infection in the gastrointestinal tract. When motile forms of B. burgdorferi were exposed to RBC for 1 week at 37 degrees C, the minimal bactericidal concentration (MBC) was > 64 mg/ml. At 30 degrees C, the MBC was > 256 mg/ml. When the incubation lasted for 2 weeks at 37 degrees C, the MBC dropped to > 2 mg/ml. Bismuth aggregates were present on the surface of B. burgdorferi when RBC > or = MBC, as shown by transmission electron microscopy (TEM). Cystic forms of B. burgdorferi, exposed to RBC for 2 weeks at 37 degrees C, were examined by cultivation in BSK-H medium (Sigma B3528). They were stained with acridine orange (pH 6.4, pH 7.4) and studied by TEM. The MBC for RBC for young cystic forms (1 day old) and old cysts (8 months old) was estimated to be > 0.125 mg/ml and > 2 mg/ml, respectively.

Bismuth aggregates were attached to the cysts and, in some, the pin-shaped aggregates penetrated the cyst wall. The bismuth aggregates also bound strongly to blebs and granules of B. burgdorferi when RBC > or = MBC.

When B. burgdorferi is responsible for gastrointestinal symptoms, bismuth compounds may be candidates for eradication of the bacterium from the gastrointestinal tract.

PMID: 12051564

Ranitidine is Zantac.

When my sis was having problems, she took 2 Pepto Bismol tablets and a Zantac before bed every night for one week only...AFTER getting her LLMD's okay.

Phosphorous connection...very possible. Are you eating lots of good veggies?


 


Posted by lymemomtooo (Member # 5396) on :
 
I continue to hope I am immune to these critters but my daughter has lyme and bart..My ? to Marnie..If you have pain on the right side it is a deficiency of Magnesium and manganese? Anything else?
Thanks, lymemomtooo
 
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
Right side pain...often gall bladder (frequent prob. with lyme...becomes sluggish) or appendix (you know the appendix is a secondary immune organ! I didn't until too late...jumped too fast to have it removed).

Best to get your INTRAcellular level of vitamins and minerals checked. Then you will know EXACTLY which ones are deficient...or in excess. Rebalancing is delicate...to say the least.

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Posted by jmardis (Member # 6643) on :
 
Everyone,

Thanks for all the information. Should I call my LLMD first or just go to regular duc.


 


Posted by duramater (Member # 6480) on :
 
Could also be intestinal or pancreas. Not only are there gobs of organs (or organ areas) in the area you describe, the innervation of that area is diffuse, so you can have pain there that is not even from there! For example, if your pancreas is inflammed, it can hurt in the middle of your back.

Anyway, it could be a multitude of things including muscular or neuro-based too (if tender to touch). I suspect either your LLMD or your PCP could help you out.

~DM

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Posted by marblenose (Member # 6477) on :
 
Hi,
The left side pain started in July 2004 and lasted until I started IV anbx. Now it comes and goes occasionally. Mostly it's not a problem. It's always best to check with the doc.
Blessings,
Marblenose
 


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