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Posted by Lenny777 (Member # 5452) on :
 
I've got some serious congestion in my chest and I cough and cough but nothing. A few chunks here and there, but I need more. What do you guys do to loosen that junk up. I tried expectorants and they help a little. I think I have a virus that's going around. Any suggestions?


 
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
 
Ive been experinceing the same thing caughing and caughing after this flu that went through our family.
I used dayquill and nyquill robitussin I used in the past.
 
Posted by DR. Wiseass (Member # 6777) on :
 
Now Lenny -

I hate to suggest the obvious...or to appear to be a smarta$$...well, not really...

But Lenny honey - have you considered seeing a doc?

I know there are plenty of great self-helf remedies out there & I'm usually the one favoring those over dragging my fat a$$ to the doc...again. BUT...

Please don't sit at home self-treating a cough that won't go away when you already have a disease that causes you to be immunosuppressed already. You don't need to come down with bronchitis or pneumonia and then some ER duck wants to shoot you full of steroids...which are IMMUNOSUPPRESSANTS.

You have now been chastised by DR Wiseass...now that didn't hurt at all, did it? Now how 'bout a lollypop?

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DR. Wiseass - not a real doc - just a real wise ass.
www.twistoflyme.blogspot.com
 


Posted by Lenny777 (Member # 5452) on :
 
I got ya Wise-A-Double. I actually made an appointment this morning. I go at 3:45 today. I just figured it was a virus and it would pass and if they are going to give me abx, well, I've got a closet full of those. About 7 years ago this same thing happened and it turned into walking pneumonia. For those who love gross details...I coughed up something that looked like a corn nut today. I never did like corn nuts. Anyway thanks for the kick in the pants. I let you know what he says.
 
Posted by Health (Member # 6034) on :
 
Hello,

My congestion was from candida.

SF722 really helped, but it took about 2 solid weeks of using it to get the stuff up,
and when I did, I also had a fever and coughing like unreal!

I had to take 12 SF722's a day to get it up though. I had horrid dieoff of candida, but it was worth it to get that stuff up.

I know the fever was just my immune system kicking in to get it out.

SF722 is an antifungal put out by Thorne Research. YOu can take up to 15 a day I have heard. My old ND told me to stick to 12 a day, 4 caps 3 times a day.

Trish
 


Posted by Recipegirl05 (Member # 6729) on :
 
Hey Lenny,

You can purchase a blue box of Mucinex at CVS for $20. Try Wal-Mart?? This is actually "pure guaifenesin" which is usually prescription.


You must drink plenty of water to make it work.


I know for a fact the RX guaifenesin actually turns thick mucous into the consistency of water. No lie.


My son who has chronic asthmatic bronchitis was prescribed this with every bout of bronchitis for his entire life. It was an astounding med.


[BTW, I'm just thankful the "dangerous form" of RX Guafenesin which contained additives didn't kill him. Asthma meds alone increase the heart rate.]


The problem is many of the guaifenesin RX also add something EXTRA which causes bad side effects (like increased heart rate/stroke...., can't remember).


Anyway, you might consider calling the Doc for a RX of the safe form of "guaifenesin only" & if you have insurance------well, the co-pay may be less than the cost of over-the-counter, Mucinex.


Do you have any NAC in the house? It will break up mucous, also.


For new readers: The amino acid, NAC
(N-acetyl cysteine) is also a great liver detoxifier & builds glutathione levels-----which you probably already know.


Don't get plain Cysteine); It's like a brillo pad for your arteries.


I've been using the inexpensive NOW brand of NAC which contains selenium & molybdenum aiding in the conversion to glutathione.

Get well.

Jan


 


Posted by charlie (Member # 25) on :
 
It's also allergy season here...at least along the Gulf Coast. The trees and weeds are coming out and everybody, lymie and non-lymie alike is coughing, gasping, and wheezing.

I, myself, am a veritable snot volcano, but have never come up with a corn nut...I had no idea that was where those came from... whole new meaning for expectorate.

I may not eat them any more. Could you cough up something useful?? Vise grips maybe??

Charlie

[This message has been edited by charlie (edited 24 February 2005).]
 


Posted by Lenny777 (Member # 5452) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Recipegirl05:

You can purchase a blue box of [b]Mucinex
at CVS for $20. Try Wal-Mart?? [/B]

I just polished of a bottle of that yesterday. I think it helped. But I'm not all the way there. I just got back from the Doc and the said I probably have the Flu and or the beginning of Walking pneumonia. Which I believe. I had it about 7 years ago and it feel the same. The Gave me Zithromax and Histussin HC Syrup. We'll see how it works. I see alot of people here on on Zithromax. What does it treat here? Lyme, Babesia...?


 


Posted by Recipegirl05 (Member # 6729) on :
 
Lenny ---

See if the cough syrup is an expectorant? If not, your Doc may still prescribe some Guaifenex???? Don't know.


Zithromax (intra-cellular) alone is for LD which was my first ABX. (They ususally add in Flagyl or cystbuster later on).


Mepron & Zithromax & herbal ArtemISIN is for Babesia.


If you keep having recurrent chest problems, you might want to get treated for Babesia. One life cycle for Babs according to my new LLMD is 4 months----so you'd need at least 4 months??


Babs can cause chest problems. You can also have a pretty-much silent Babesia infection.......just a thought.


My husband gets pleurisy very bad when he's run down. He just started LD treatment.


Just a FYI:
Pre-lyme diagnosis: According to blood test had mycoplasma pneumoniae (Low count) which is walking pneumonia. But had no cough-----more like a very mild case of pleurisy because it kind of hurt when I breathed in.


I was given 10 days of Levaquin for m. pneumoniae.

Hope this helps.

Take Care,
Jan
 


Posted by Recipegirl05 (Member # 6729) on :
 
Me again,

You asked what Zithromax treated?


Zithromax & Levaquin is only one combination to treat Bartonella. There are a few different combos.


I know it takes at least 2 meds taken together to kill Bartonella.


I'm doing Minocycline 200 mg a day in preparation for treatment of Bartonella next month. Having tons of die-off with Mino after almost 2 years of treatment for neuro lyme.

She talked about adding Levaquin-----depending on ability to tolerate it; herxing & all that.


My favorite Lymenet quote:

"If the specific disease has not been targeted yet, then it will continue to cause problems."


Bye.
 


Posted by Lenny777 (Member # 5452) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
Could you cough up something useful?? Vise grips maybe??

I also coughed up a John Tesh CD...so I guess it wasn't useful.

 


Posted by TheCrimeOfLyme (Member # 4019) on :
 
Thanks for making me almost spit coffee out lenny- I read your line about coughign up a John Tesh CD BEFORE I knew why you said it.

Anyways, I had pneumonia last month. It wasnt fun and took two weeks to go away.. and oddly

it went away on DIFLUCAN. Not so oddly, because I marched back to my doctors office before I touched teh diflucan after the antibiotic made me sick

and demanded my spit be cultured.

I had fungal pneumonia.

Be careful.


 


Posted by Lenny777 (Member # 5452) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TheCrimeOfLyme:

it went away on DIFLUCAN. Not so oddly, because I marched back to my doctors office before I touched teh diflucan after the antibiotic made me sick

and demanded my spit be cultured.

I had fungal pneumonia.


I'm on a yeast diet with formula SF722 and Threelac. It may be yeast or yeast die off.?

Sorry about the coffee.

 


Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TheCrimeOfLyme:
Thanks for making me almost spit coffee out lenny- I read your line about coughign up a John Tesh CD BEFORE I knew why you said it.

Anyways, I had pneumonia last month. It wasnt fun and took two weeks to go away.. and oddly

it went away on DIFLUCAN. Not so oddly, because I marched back to my doctors office before I touched teh diflucan after the antibiotic made me sick

and demanded my spit be cultured.

I had fungal pneumonia.

Be careful.


Jodie your a walkin target hmmmmmmm I wonder if this is what I have been fighting off over the last few years??

Fungal Pneumonia
Primary fungal pneumonia is caused most commonly by Blastomyces dermatitidis, Histoplasma capsulatum, or Coccidioides immitis and less commonly by Sporothrix schenckii or Cryptococcus, Aspergillus, or Mucor sp (see Ch. 158). Fungal pneumonia may be a complication of antibacterial therapy, especially in patients with altered host defense mechanisms due to illness or immunosuppressive therapy.

Damn Fungals



 


Posted by Lenny777 (Member # 5452) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by treepatrol:
Fungal pneumonia may be a complication of antibacterial therapy, especially in patients with altered host defense mechanisms due to illness or immunosuppressive therapy.



Hmm?
 


Posted by DR. Wiseass (Member # 6777) on :
 
Hey - I'm sorry to hear about all you snot-for-brains people suffering and all...but this thread has caused me to laugh hard enough to pee a bit...

of course since I've got that whole bladder disease thing happening, I'm not gonna alert the media about it.

But Charlie & Lenny - honestly - I think I laughed so hard I almost snorted.

Hey, can I use the phrase "hacking up a corn nut & John Tesh CD" AND "snot volcano" ...sometime in my blog? That's some funny s***. Naturally, I'll give you credit.

OK - well wishing you speedy recovery & dry nasal passages.

------------------
DR. Wiseass - not a real doc - just a real wise ass.
www.twistoflyme.blogspot.com
 


Posted by Lenny777 (Member # 5452) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DR. Wiseass:
Hey, can I use the phrase "hacking up a corn nut & John Tesh CD" AND "snot volcano" ...sometime in my blog? That's some funny s***. Naturally, I'll give you credit.

Permission granted.

 




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