LymeNet Flash: Anyone read the book "Beating Lyme Disease" by DR Jernigan??

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Posted by gottagetbetter (Member # 6951) on :

I am about half way done with this book. Very interesting. Have you tried his treatment??
~P

Posted by BobC on :

Would you please state what Dr. Jernigan's protocol entails.

Thanks, Bob

Posted by kam (Member # 3410) on :

NO, but I recall thinking it certainly would be worth reading.

What do you think so far?

Posted by Ann-OH (Member # 2020) on :

Jernigan has been around for years and years and his company still offers Borrelogen, which didn't do much for people with Lyme disease in spite of his claims. Get that pseudo-scientific label? He still offers it, but says it is an immune enhancer and must be taken with his brand of acidophilus.

He is not a medical doctor, nor is his wife. He and his wife both have "BS DC" after their names. He is in the business of selling
Check this out: http://www.wellnow.com/scout/jernigan.html

I love the way he includes everything but the kitchen sink to fight Lyme disease in his book (including "color therapy").

And I think it is really cheap to tie it into his version of Christianity. Here is the whole title:

Beating Lyme Disease: Using Alternative Medicine and God-Designed Living
by David A. Jernigan

No Thanks!

Ann - OH

Posted by gottagetbetter (Member # 6951) on :

Ann,

Sorry you feel that way. I have found alot of solid information in his book. If you check out his website it has alot of information on how the body can actually heal itself. He has alot of tips on detox and putting the body right. I think he is right on the money with why we got sick to begin with and bringing the body back into harmony. www.jnutracom
I am not sure about his products but he also ties in a lot of other products that he DOESN'T sell.
~P

Posted by tequeslady (Member # 6832) on :

I tried looking on the website you mentioned below. It doesn't appear to work.

quote:
Originally posted by gottagetbetter:
Ann,
Sorry you feel that way. I have found alot of solid information in his book. If you check out his website it has alot of information on how the body can actually heal itself. He has alot of tips on detox and putting the body right. I think he is right on the money with why we got sick to begin with and bringing the body back into harmony. www.jnutracom
I am not sure about his products but he also ties in a lot of other products that he DOESN'T sell.
~P

Posted by Ann-OH (Member # 2020) on :

I think this is the site. This part has bios on both Jernigans. Note that they both have Bachelor of Science degrees (if that is what BS means in this case) and both are chiropracters. Not sure this qualifies one to develop herbal

http://www.jnutra.com/doctors.htm

quote:
Dr. David is a Christian, though not bound by the religious traditions of man. He is non-denominational, and has received training in advanced studies in Biblical research. This biblical foundation enables him to practice and teach the healing arts with the unique perspective of the truths presented in God's Word in regards to what he calls God-designed healing, and God-designed living.

Dr. David has personally developed over 30 novel natural medicines to date.
(end quote)

Ann - OH

Posted by kam (Member # 3410) on :

I think I would just see it as another resource to getting my health back and not the only resource.

Posted by Sue vG (Member # 3143) on :

A cautionary note: people with advanced degrees typically use only the initials of their highest degree behind their name if they use one at all. People with lesser certifications tend to cluster them behind their names like a banner when they're trying to sell something.

A bachelor's degree is a prerequisite to getting a Doctorate in Chiropractic, at least in this country, so I don't know of a single chiropractor who would bother to use the lesser "title" when they have a much "loftier" one.

The only exception I've seen is when a doctor has a specialty practice for which s/he had to get another advanced degree, such as Mary Smith, M.D., J.D.

So, I have my doubts as to whether either one of them is actually a chiropractor.

Also, the fact that they feel like they have to wave the religion flag to make a sale makes me wary and turns me off. I've met several crooks wearing ichthus tie tacks.

Posted by gottagetbetter (Member # 6951) on :

I just thought it would be another source of info. Actually like I said I am not sure abut his supplements but I do know that he is right on the money about this being a Mind, Body, Spirit illness. I believe that all of those items have to be in check to stay healthy OR get better. I know alot of what I see on this board disturbs me in the fact that we are taking LONG term antibiotics and antimalaria drugs for years and then even when the lyme is gone we aren't better. Just thought we all might be able to take a little info and grow!
~P

Posted by shazdancer (Member # 1436) on :

Some of the word constructs in the J*rnig*ns' bios, and other phrases on their website, lead me to believe that the "non-denominational" Christian group they follow is The Way International, or one of its offshoots.

I was involved with this organization for 12 years, back in high school, college and early adulthood. I have come to learn that the founder of the organization, Victor Paul Wierwille, was a serial sexual abuser to members of his flock, the second president was kicked out for sexual improprieties, and the group today practices very controlling doctrines. I would term the organization a cult, although many followers (myself included) had no idea how evil the group was at its core.

Since the J*rnig*n's do not name the "non-denominational Christian college" where they got their "advanced studies in Biblical research" from, I would beware. (The Way's colleges were never accredited, and no longer exist.) Although many of their ideas on supporting the body's natural ability to heal seem sound, I would examine everything they have to say with a fine-toothed comb.

Feel free to email me if you have other questions.

Regards,
Shaz

[This message has been edited by shazdancer (edited 03 March 2005).]

Posted by Sue vG (Member # 3143) on :

P,

I think after you've been here a little longer you'll see that many of us are not as one-dimensional and inexperienced in the mind-body-spirit connection as you'd like to make us out to be.

Even those of us who have been practicing that for years have found, much to our dismay, that the techniques and supplements that kept us in balance before were not enough against borrelia and coinfections.

One thing you need to consider is that the phrase "even when the lyme is gone we aren't better" is not accurate. We're still sick because the lyme ISN'T gone. Attitude and faith help, but they don't kill bacteria.

Sue

Posted by shazdancer (Member # 1436) on :

Bumping this up once for someone who asked to see this info.

Thanks,
Shaz

Posted by cmichaelo (Member # 5873) on :

Just got this book.

Somewhat turned off by all the sales.

Very interesting reading though. Especially about how the bacteria communicate.

I always thought that there was some information sharing going on between bacteria. It sure could explain the monthly herxes many Lymies have.

I do believe in the mind-body connection and that it is as important to be in balance with your body as it is to eat healthy.

Has any of you used any of his supplement, most interestingly the Neuro-Antitox stuff and the "frequency-matched" supplements (e.g. Virogen, Borrelogen)?

At this point I'm just reading through the book to gather yet another data point.

Michael

Posted by Ann-OH (Member # 2020) on :

Michael, I suggest you read everything posted on this thread and check out the websites on Jernigan.
Ann - OH

Posted by cmichaelo (Member # 5873) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ann-OH:
Michael, I suggest you read everything posted on this thread and check out the websites on Jernigan.
Ann - OH

I did. I'm always suspecious. But my questions remain.

Michael

Posted by cmichaelo (Member # 5873) on :

Not to mock at anything, but I chuckled when I paid my first visit to Jernigan's website, cause...

...the first think you see is

"God-Designed Living
God-Designed Healing"

...and then a picture of an army of supplements

...and then this:

"Toll Free 877-4JNUTRA"

So I couldn't help wondering if God will pick up when you call this number?

Michael

Posted by shazdancer (Member # 1436) on :

LOL, Michael!

The Way International had people on its staff who were into natural foods and healing, even as far back as the 1960's. I have no problem with looking at herbal supplements, vitamins, and natural foods as adjuncts to healing.

What I am saying is that there is probably plenty of good information in the book.

However, The Way International also taught that the use of doctors and physical aids to health should be considered "third aid." First aid was praying to God. Second aid was being ministered to for healing by another believer. Third, if the first two didn't work, was medicine.

The Way also taught that you got healed because of your believing action. You should act like you are healed, then you will be. (I hope you can see that that is different than having a positive attitude, which is a good thing.) If you weren't healed, it was because you were not believing "big enough." I had a friend who threw away his epilepsy medication to demonstrate his belief in his healing. He died.

I think the last thing we Lymies need is to be told that it is somehow our fault that we are ill. We get enough people doubting us as it is!

As I said, read cautiously.

Shaz