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Posted by duke77 (Member # 5051) on :

Some people believe that Lyme is difficult to treat because it is actually a hybrid bacteria and a virus. A stealth virus can affect animals, people, and even bacteria. This hybrid virus called a "viteria" was most likely created for biowarfare. It hides by cloaking itself in the coagulation parts of the blood.

They say it can sometimes be detected with a crp reactive protein test. They speculate that is responisble for Lyme, gulf war syndrome, CFS, Fibro, Multiple Myloma, ALS, etc.

Any truth to this hybrid stealth virus junk?

Posted by Linda LD (Member # 6663) on :

Duke77,

You need to look up some threads from a couple of weeks ago about Plum Island.

I have also read some interesting studies about MS outbreak in Greenland or Iceland during WWII. It is the only known MS epidemic.

Some people think this is true. I am so Polly Annish I don't think our government would purposely hurt us.

But try reading The Day They Bombed America (I couldn't finish it. Also, the Tennessee Valley is known as "Thyroid Alley" my doc says that is because we are German, Cherokee, and Scottish descent here and we are genetically predisposed...

just some thought,
Linda

Posted by Sue vG (Member # 3143) on :

Linda LD,

Hah! A conspiracy theorist-type thought just hit me. Could the concentration of thyroid problems be somehow linked to all the nuclear reactors in the Tennessee Valley?

I would seriously be interested in answer to that, since I lived in Knoxville for several years. God's country!

I'm on thyroid meds.

Sue

Posted by tikbit (Member # 6629) on :

[Linda, unfortunately our gov. can and will harm us. Did you know they tested our soldiers on LSD without their consent or knowledge.

I love America and it's still the best place on earth and I hate people who trash it. Part of the reason the rest of the world hates us so much is all the bad press in our own press.

The media is so biased it ridiculous. But this does not mean the "gov." are always right or that they never lie to us.

Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :

quote:
Originally posted by duke77:
Any truth to this hybrid stealth virus junk?

Yes theres truth in some of it enough to make me keep a eye on it.

If you dont believe that did you know a > The only whale-dolphin mix in captivity has given birth to a playful female calf, officials at Sea Life Park Hawaii said Thursday.
Baby Wholphin Born in Captivity
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/features/strangenews/apress_041505_wholphin.html
http://www.cdc.gov/search.do?action=search&queryText=viteria&x=8&y=10

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Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :

http://www.cdc.gov/iceid/asm-iceid_program.pdf

Theres the pdf page 139 refrenced

Posted by janet thomas (Member # 7122) on :

duke- i have read-i am only a puppet repeating info i have read and have no opinion-so here's a few things i have read-they could be untrue

The US gov created a new microorganism -Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus and patented it- It is genetically engineered and a tiny portion of it's DNA is from the AIDS virus-

Many veterans from the Gulf War (Gulf War Illness doesn't exist or does it-I get so confused) have tested positive for M. fermentans incognitus and responded favorably to treatment

After the World Health Organization innoculated many people in africa for smallpox 60 % of them developed AIDS

Old Lyme,CT (the epicenter of Lyme disease) is 10 miles due north (across Long Island Sound) from Plum Island where the US gov has an animal disease research laboratory.

I have read a rule in biowarfare is don't use a biological weapon unless you have the treatment. Mistakes happen, don't they?

I suggest you read the book Lab 257, do a search for Garth Nicholson and Gulf War Illness

Posted by janet thomas (Member # 7122) on :

CRP test--C Reactive Protein- an old test used to detect inflammation in the body

Usually neg in Lyme often pos in rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus

Updated version-High sensitive crp (or is it specific)-often if high can predict heart disease

Posted by pippy (Member # 6005) on :

Hi treepatrol
it would be funny if it were not so diabolical.....
whale-dolphin mix? i have not read the article yet but I will.
"Whale" and "dolphin" are terms used interchangably at times. The toothed whales (like orcas/killer whales) are actually dolphins and all dolphins are also toothed whales. That is why on a "guaranteed" whale-watching trip, when the dolphins invariably swim with the boat, you don't get your money back because dolphins ARE whales!

Still, it is truly frightening if someone created an orca/dolphin hybrid/frankenwhale.
What will they do next? They are already going to make a wooly mammoth clone and have an elephant be the surrogate mother...

Posted by pippy (Member # 6005) on :

I was thinking about this and it all depends on taxonomy. there are "false orcas"/killerwhales which are dolphins that are bigger than most dolphins. dolphins are so similar in taxonomy to orcas that they able to interbreed naturally, but it is rare.

Viruses and bacteria are very different as far as taxonomy. If there were to be a combo, it would be more like a "chimera" than a hybrid.
A chimera is something not seen (so far) in nature. It would have to be genetically engineered, a whole new taxonomy we have yet to discover, or from another planet.

Posted by tequeslady (Member # 6832) on :

Linda:

Could you please tell me who wrote "the day they bombed america". I looked, but can't find it on Amazon.

thanks.

quote:
Originally posted by Linda LD:
Duke77,

But try reading The Day They Bombed America (I couldn't finish it. Also, the Tennessee Valley is known as "Thyroid Alley" my doc says that is because we are German, Cherokee, and Scottish descent here and we are genetically predisposed...
just some thought,
Linda

Posted by hwlatin (Member # 4123) on :

By the way my insurance company is now telling me that the CRP test is now considered experimental if you can believe that. Just another fight to deal with.