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Posted by cmichaelo (Member # 5873) on :

I know this might be a naive question, but which is more effective at removing heavy metals:

Chlorella (1 g, 3 times daily, every day)

DMSA (800mg, 3 times daily, 3 days on, 11 days off)?

Michael

Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :

dmsa is more effective, but also more likely to produce reactions in and of itself, and those reactions due to pulling out metals, including good ones.

chlorella is safer

i not done either one, but, from having done considerable research on this, and other sulfur-containing compounds, including British Anti-lewisite, from which, I think, dmsa can be made, i'd say chlorella is safer.

Posted by cmichaelo (Member # 5873) on :

Well, chlorella is a lot cheaper too. At least 10x cheaper.

Btw, the way I'm doing dmsa is, according to the LLMD, a safe way of doing it.

During the 3 days I'm on dmsa (chemet brand), I can't take any mineral supplement, not even mag. This is the reason for then NOT taking dmsa the next 11 days during which I take extra mineral supplements and the body readjusts itself.

Then I take another churn, and then another, ...

So it's sort of a slow process.

Do you consider this safe?

I also take MSM supplement during the chelation days.

Michael

Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :

The two - DMSA and Chlorella - cannot be compared. They do not do the same thing.
DMSA crosses the blood brain barrier. Chlorella works only extracellularly removing toxic metals from the extracellular space if taken at the proper time. It does not remove heavy metals from intracellular space where it is often found. It has multiple health inducing effects. I have posted a lengthy article on Chlorella and all it does several times here.

DMSA, a pharmaceutical, was developed in China in the late 50s. Action via sulfhydryl group. Needs to be given every four hours around the clock to prevent redistribution of Mercury and Lead into the Central Nervous System. Approved for use in lead toxicity. Causes major brain fog, memory problems during detox, depression and in children sometimes seizure disorders due to redistribution of metals.
Indiscriminate use in the U.S. Common dose:
50-100mg q4hr - 3 days on, 11 days off for 3-12 months.

My doctor uses DMSA rarely, if at all.

DMPS was developed in Russia. Available both injectable and oral. The injectable from can be used to mobilize Hg and lead from hard to reach places, such as the authonomic ganglia, joints and trigger points. The IV injection works primarily on the endothelium (several hundred square meters) and the kidneys. The IV form should never be used unless the patient is "covered" with intestinal binding agents, such as chlorella, cholestyramine, apple pectin or chitosan.

If your doctor has not treated patients for heavy metal detox extensively, if it were me, I would find one that has the experience. It is very difficult and tricky, to say the least. It also is a longterm treatment and is not done in 3 months time as many think. You can do more damage if done incorrectly.

Take care.

Part of the above is from some of my doctor's writings/publications.

Posted by Lymeonysnicket (Member # 7196) on :

I suggest you read Andrew Cutler's book on Amalgam Illness. Based on his book, DMSA is the way to go, along with the supplement Alpha Lipoic Acid. Using Chlorella alone can be very dangerous and cause redistribution of the mercury.

Are you doing chelation while on ABX? That seems as if it would be very hard on the kidneys.

Lymeonysnicket

Posted by Mo (Member # 2863) on :

Using Chlorella alone can be very dangerous and cause redistribution of the mercury.

Is this true? I thought Chlorella was a relatively safe way to go...tho not with the same intensity as DMSA.

Also: GiGi..Dr. Klinghart writes about beta-sisterol.
He has recomended in a few articles the Pharmax brand.

I have been taking sarsparilla, from an excellent herbalist..
one of the compounds is beta-sisterol.
This was also the preferred treatment for syphillis for a long time before the abx revolution.
It is also used in many counties as a blood tonic, blood purifier.

Has Doc K ever mentioned the use of certain herbs and roots that contain beta-sisterol?

Posted by ibrakeforticks (Member # 6785) on :

Another option (for mercury detox) is transdermal DMPS, TD-DMPS. Dr. Rashid Buttar is claiming success with this with autistic children.

Posted by cmichaelo (Member # 5873) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Lymeonysnicket:
I suggest you read Andrew Cutler's book on Amalgam Illness. Based on his book, DMSA is the way to go, along with the supplement Alpha Lipoic Acid. Using Chlorella alone can be very dangerous and cause redistribution of the mercury.
Are you doing chelation while on ABX? That seems as if it would be very hard on the kidneys.

The very first thing I did was to prepare the liver for the detoxification step one month prior to starting DMSA (chemet-succimer brand).

I took something called MedCaps DPO which contains B6/12, folate, watercress, artichoke, milk thistle, green tea, msm, and other stuff. Then I also a lot of alpha lipoic acid and n-acetyl cysteine.

And I continue taking all of the above during chelation. Plus I load up on MSM before and during chelation days.

I'm taking it all while also taking abx.

How do I know if I have any liver problems?

I'm doing pretty good these days and all the bathroom stuff looks pretty good too.

I have none of the side-effects of DMSA as Gigi mentioned above.

I also thought that Chlorella was pretty safe to take.

Michael

Posted by liz28 on :

This LLMD does the heavy metal detox with everybody. Whether it interests you or not is up to you. Just make sure, with this LLMD, that you are on co-infection treatment. He's the guy I just ran away from. I've seen 70% improvement of my symptoms since I left 1 1/2 months ago.

Posted by cmichaelo (Member # 5873) on :

quote:
Originally posted by liz28:
This LLMD does the heavy metal detox with everybody. Whether it interests you or not is up to you. Just make sure, with this LLMD, that you are on co-infection treatment. He's the guy I just ran away from. I've seen 70% improvement of my symptoms since I left 1 1/2 months ago.

liz,

Was this for me? If so, please tell me more about Dr.H if you can. Email if you like.

Michael

Posted by Eyal (Member # 6676) on :

Liz,

I just started with dr. H this month. I'd also like to know anything you know about him or his guru.

Who do you use now?

Thanks,

Eyal

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