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Posted by pippy (Member # 6005) on :
 
I feel so stupid
We went hiking yesterday and since I was feeling so darn good we took a road trip and went to a place near coast...path had tall grass. Dog got 2 ticks that we found before they started to feed. We stripped down and had 3 on us! Yuck!

We put "natural" repellant on our pant legs and that did not seem to stop them. tucked socks in ...that helped me because one little bugger was obvious on my white sock. Socks tucked in, ticks were probably saying, "here comes the Dork family...they won't see us!"

What do you all do to prevent ticks? Do you use permethrin? Is it safe to spray on clothes?
The dog is on frontline but that does not help. What can I put on my dog?

I'm looking for a safe yet effective way to repel these $%#@$%'s!
Thanks!
 


Posted by Kara Tyson (Member # 939) on :
 
I use permethrin & woods OFF. Not only is permethrin safe for clothes, it is ONLY for clothes.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Who was it that said "Concrete is my friend?"
 
Posted by beachcomber (Member # 5320) on :
 
Hey, Pip:

I got talked into doing a hike recently. It was my own personal Fear Factor. I kept looking for the film crew. I had read that Eucalyptus Oil is a good repellent. I put it on my sneaks, pants and shirt sleeves. I not olny repelled my fellow hikers but I think I repelled the ticks. I did not find one on my when I got home. (Of course, they could be sitting on my dashboard waiting for me).

Bc
 


Posted by orion (Member # 3858) on :
 
Im curious... WHERE in California did you pick up the ticks?

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Posted by Just Julie (Member # 1119) on :
 
It was OptiMisTic who said to her children "concrete is your friend". I have to believe this is true, not only in northern CA, where I live, but in the mountains of Southern CA, where I grew up, hiked, camped, etc.

I was "so stupid" a year and a half ago, when I went to a barn dance in my home town. Now, I knew there were ticks right out my back door (we live on an acre in a "rural residential" neighborhood, and this barn was located a few miles from my house, in a much more densely forested place in this town (think John Muir).

I was VERY CAUTIOUS in checking out this barn and it's surroundings when I pulled up in my truck, and I thought since all of the festivities were taking place in the arena area (no tall grass near the actual covered arena) that I was "safe". Well, think again. I did not walk thru tall grass to get to this arena, but I did walk under huge oak trees along the dirt path from the parking area.

And lo and behold, about an hour after I got home, I felt something crawling on my stomach, and YUP YOU GUESSED IT!! I found a live tick-not embedded, just crusing around on my tummy.

I freaked like I hadn't freaked out ever, because I have not found a tick crawling or embedded on my body since 1987. Yes, folks, that was, um, lets see, 17 YEARS since I had my one and only tick bite. And what I was so majorly freaking about was----was this tick that I found crawling on my stomach just getting ready to bite, or had he already bit me hours before and had just backed out and was heading for the hills?

I got back on doxy within 5 minutes of killing this tick. I was so angry at myself for letting my guard down. I'd been off all abx for 6 months at that point, and now here I was again back on the abx merry-ro-round.

That's why when I posed under ArtistDi's query about letting her daughter go on a nature trip thru school, I knew what I was talking about. It doesn't matter how old you are, if you let your guard down for a second, let your mind rationalize thru your doubts that you have about going into a KNOWN TICK AREA, you are screwed.

Doesn't mean it will happen that time, or the next, but maybe the next?

I took this crawling live tick on my stomach as my major wakeup call, and have changed our lifestyle accordingly. I thought I was careful before I found this tick, but now I know better.

I truly believe how you react to this "I won't let it change my life" attitude about not camping/hiking/going into forested areas (even sprayed up the wazoo with tick repellent)depends on exactly what place in your life you are on the tick/Lyme treating journey.

Some of us have so been there done that with the whole getting treatment/spending gajillions of dollars out of pocket in treatment/watching and treating your kids with lyme/ etc., that we have head knowledge that leads us to believe that all of that outdoor fun naturey-type activities are over.

Like OpTiMisTic said, you just know.

Or, I think she said that, if she didn't, well, then I said it. You just know. And you change accordingly.

Frontline does not keep the ticks off the animals, I have found embedded ticks on my outdoor only cats every year. I use Frontline year round, and I still find ticks every month. I learned that if you pull an embedded tick off before it's been attached for 2 days, then the tick is not dead yet, and yes, can crawl off our tweezers or whatever you used to pull it out with, and get away, to crawl onto you at some point. I only remove ticks off the cats when I'm outside, have a white paper towel at the ready, and can see the damn thing clearly, then I dump it into a mason jar filled with alcohol, and screw that lid on tight. I leave that outside in the garage until I have a few floating around in there, and then I put it in my trash can on trash pickup day, because if the damn thing broke in the trash can by accident, and one of those @#$% ticks happened to still be alive (yet pickled in the alcohol having one damn swingin party) then he could get out and find me, because if there was ever a major tick magnet, it's me!!!

Crazy making thinking, but then I've had 5 yrs to think up all this stuff, and changing my life to fit this scenario.

4 yrs ago, or so,right after getting the Lyme diagnosis for myself and my 2 kids, I did not have any of this type mindset. I might even have still hopped on the trail that encircles my neighborood to go to Starbucks for a latte. I think I only walked on that trail when the green grass was really low, like in December. But, a year ago,4 years into the nightmare that is Lyme disease, when I found that #$%^ tick on my stomach, it was January. No time of the year is "safe" in California!

In Northern CA, there are ticks year round, wherever you go.
Julie

[This message has been edited by Just Julie (edited 23 May 2005).]
 


Posted by deedee (Member # 4638) on :
 
Avon skin so soft bug guard works good and it is safe for kids too. It was recommended in a Lyme Disease Foundation book I read. Just order it online.

deedee
 


Posted by deedee (Member # 4638) on :
 
Avon skin so soft bug guard works good and it is safe for kids too. It was recommended in a Lyme Disease Foundation book I read. Just order it online.

deedee

oops sorry hit the button twice!

[This message has been edited by deedee (edited 23 May 2005).]
 


Posted by Lymester (Member # 5848) on :
 
I know people say "Avon skin so soft" but I thought that studies were done and of the lot in the batch, that the skinsosoft only is good for a length of about 22.5 23 minutes. I use family off for my child and go big bombs with Cutter Backwoods.

We can not forget...

Lymester
 


Posted by janet thomas (Member # 7122) on :
 
Julie-Thank you for taking the time to post about your tick magnetism. It's nice to be wanted.

I never want to go anywhere where ticks may be. However, are you saying walking under trees is not safe? Did you brush up against the tree. How cold is it in January where you live?

I spray all the footwear in the house with 0.5% permethrin, does that offer foolproof protection? I bought a case of the stuff.

LL Bean sells clothing impregnated with permethrin-it's called Buzz Off.

Janet
 


Posted by pippy (Member # 6005) on :
 
Where is CA was this? State Park/Beach Just North of Santa Cruz along the bluffs overlooking the ocean...lots of tall grass, wildfolwers, very few trees, hawks circling, rodents galore, and cute quail families. Of course the view is breath-takingly beautiful if you are not too busy looking out for ticks! Ticks really spoil the fun!

Fear factor" fits.....once we found the first tick, we felt like we entered a mine field and it was a race to get out before we got "hit" again.

Yesterday we were smart and stuck to a wide trail and made sure dog stayed on trail. No ticks!
 


Posted by mlkeen (Member # 1260) on :
 
Whenever I think of going for a walk off road, I go sailing!

Mel


 


Posted by Lymeindunkirk (Member # 7118) on :
 
I send my son to a boys camp in WV in the summer for three weeks. I spoke with the camp director this year and asked about ticks. He told me he has never seen a tick there in 30+ years. He grew up at the camp as it is owned by his family. Anybody from WV or know the area? Could this be true? My son attended the camp for the first time last year and tells me he didn't get any ticks. They go on hikes and swim everyday a couple of times in the Greenbrier river. Maybe the swimming helps wash them away? Any opinions?
 
Posted by Just Julie (Member # 1119) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by janet thomas:
Julie-Thank you for taking the time to post about your tick magnetism. It's nice to be wanted.

I never want to go anywhere where ticks may be. However, are you saying walking under trees is not safe? Did you brush up against the tree. How cold is it in January where you live?

I spray all the footwear in the house with 0.5% permethrin, does that offer foolproof protection? I bought a case of the stuff.

LL Bean sells clothing impregnated with permethrin-it's called Buzz Off.

Janet


Janet, I typed a reply TWICE, and stinking Lymenet (yes, I'm tired) kicked me off twice, so if you still want an answer to your questions above, email me at [email protected]. Sorry, too tired now to reply for a third time.
Julie


 


Posted by Linda LD (Member # 6663) on :
 
Here in East Tennessee we have all kinds of ticks. Also have a friend I meet here, who is suffering. the interesting thing is we both grew up on area lakes. Ticks need moisture.

L
 




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