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Posted by johnlyme1 (Member # 7343) on :
 
Hi to all with much gratitude,

I am on my 2nd round of abx for co-infections now. Biaxin/cipro 1000mg each per day. Bright red blood in the old stool today. Not a lot but enought to shock. Taking all the pro-biotics that one can. We also think I passed a polip 5 weeks ago. the same area hurts, near the end of the colon by the bladder. anyone else getting some blood in the stool. Colonoscapy 5 years ago was clean as a whistle.

 


Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
Very scary, but...MOST bright red blood in the stool/along with evacuation is caused by hemorrhoids...EXTREMELY common. It usually slows down on its own, once it has drained.

If the bleeding CONTINUES and is a LOT, I repeat, a LOT of blood loss...sometimes...very rare!!!...a diverticulum (also very common - a weakness in the wall, sorta like a hernia) can rupture. This is an ER visit...and immediate surgery.

Are your SURE it was blood? If only a little "red", did you eat beats?

That said...still...to be sure...check in with your doc.

In the meantime...don't panic.

Black stools/BMs indicate bleeding higher up in the GI tract OR something you consumed(Pepto Bismol).

P.S. Here's some additional info.:
http://www.healingdaily.com/colon-kidney-detoxification/hemorrhoids.htm

If Bb is in the bowel...ask your doctor if it is okay with him/her to take 2 Pepto Bismol tablets and 1 Zantac before bed every night for ONE WEEK ONLY.

This is why:

Int Microbiol. 2001 Dec;4(4):209-15. Related Articles, Links

Susceptibility of motile and cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi to ranitidine bismuth citrate.

Brorson O, Brorson SH.

Department of Microbiology, Vestfold Sentralsykehus, Tonsberg, Norway.

Gastrointestinal symptoms accompanying Lyme disease have not been considered in the treatment of Lyme patients yet. Here we examine the effect of ranitidine bismuth citrate (RBC) on motile and cystic forms of Borrelia burgdorferi in vitro, to determine whether it could cure this bacterial infection in the gastrointestinal tract. When motile forms of B. burgdorferi were exposed to RBC for 1 week at 37 degrees C, the minimal bactericidal concentration (MBC) was > 64 mg/ml. At 30 degrees C, the MBC was > 256 mg/ml. When the incubation lasted for 2 weeks at 37 degrees C, the MBC dropped to > 2 mg/ml. Bismuth aggregates were present on the surface of B. burgdorferi when RBC > or = MBC, as shown by transmission electron microscopy (TEM). Cystic forms of B. burgdorferi, exposed to RBC for 2 weeks at 37 degrees C, were examined by cultivation in BSK-H medium (Sigma B3528). They were stained with acridine orange (pH 6.4, pH 7.4) and studied by TEM. The MBC for RBC for young cystic forms (1 day old) and old cysts (8 months old) was estimated to be > 0.125 mg/ml and > 2 mg/ml, respectively. Bismuth aggregates were attached to the cysts and, in some, the pin-shaped aggregates penetrated the cyst wall. The bismuth aggregates also bound strongly to blebs and granules of B. burgdorferi when RBC > or = MBC. When B. burgdorferi is responsible for gastrointestinal symptoms, bismuth compounds may be candidates for eradication of the bacterium from the gastrointestinal tract.

PMID: 12051564 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:rsmlwBhlJtoJ:www.chsd.org/1704.cfm+blood+in+stools&hl=en

[This message has been edited by Marnie (edited 09 June 2005).]
 


Posted by johnlyme1 (Member # 7343) on :
 
Ya it was blood - I did question, what did I eat, nothing that would trun red red. Hate to say, I even moved the darn stool around a bit to make certain. the lenghts we go to.

thankd for the point also on the study!!!! I did call my LLMD, will get update this Friday.
 


Posted by susscho (Member # 7429) on :
 
Marni -- could you tell me why the pepto and zantac is one week only ? DOes less bacteria die off after the first week?

Also, I don't have a RX for Zantac now -- what dosage is it? I will try to call my doctor (out on fridays) and get a RX -- and try this -- does this mean stopping everything else (abx and all supplements enzymes for stomach) while trying this ?
I am desperate to stop my "malabsorption" -- four + months of going to bathroom 10-20x a day and it is getting worse since started back on Flagyl and Zithromax.

I have confirmed bacterial lesions in intestines -- hope this can heal some of it-- thanks for reply....SUsan
 


Posted by Lymied (Member # 6704) on :
 
I had this happen before treatment and right after a barium CT Scan...I was still very sick and months away from a diagnosis. They called it an internal hemmroid - never officially saw it on my colonoscopy...I just know that since treatment with abx's for lyme and coinfections I have not experienced it again.

I would still go see a gastroenterologist (sp?).

Take care and try not to panic...Easy for me to say...
 


Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
Sis' LLMD gave her the approval to do the Zantac-Pepto for one week only at bedtime. She used OTC doses. Zantac decreases stomach acids...hence will interfere with the breakdown of food. She did repeat this regime another time...later. This combo seems to knock out H.Pylori...which can reoccur. Does H. Pylori hide out OR are we repeatedly exposed to this pathogen and can't always fight it off?

The key is bismuth, I think. It is "diamagnetic". Guess who owns the world's largest Bi-Mn magnet? Guess what branch of the gov.
 




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