My LLMD has ultrasound and Hida gallbladder scan scheduled, but it's 10 days away.

Anyone else had similar symptoms, and/or found a cause? I am taking milk thistle but I wonder if there is more I can do to prevent this from getting worse.

The nurse practitioner at my LLMD didnt seem to think it was a big deal, but I wonder...

Thanks !

If so...appendix? Area might be inflammed.

Fever (but not always)?

Bb there? If so...ask LLMD's permission to take 1 zantac and 2 Pepto Bismol every night for ONE WEEK ONLY. (Rid GI of Bb).

I posted the documentation.

Are you taking good probiotics...lots? Gotta, gotta, keep the beneficial bacteria numbers up...or you will end up with yeast, or worse yet...very serious digestive problems (serious malnutrition -> bye, bye neurotransmitters).

Some serotonin is produced in the bowel (appendix). I found this info. out too late. Son spiraled to severe depression. Questionable appendicitis (son)..."Yes, go ahead and remove it." Not a good idea at the time.

If at all possible, avoid GI surgery.

 

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Originally posted by Marnie:
Right lower quadrant...rebound tenderness? Push on the area and release fast...more pain?

If so...appendix? Area might be inflammed.

Fever (but not always)?

Bb there? If so...ask LLMD's permission to take 1 zantac and 2 Pepto Bismol every night for ONE WEEK ONLY. (Rid GI of Bb).

I posted the documentation.

Are you taking good probiotics...lots? Gotta, gotta, keep the beneficial bacteria numbers up...or you will end up with yeast, or worse yet...very serious digestive problems (serious malnutrition -> bye, bye neurotransmitters).

Some serotonin is produced in the bowel (appendix). I found this info. out too late. Son spiraled to severe depression. Questionable appendicitis (son)..."Yes, go ahead and remove it." Not a good idea at the time.

If at all possible, avoid GI surgery.

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Tincup recommended L-Glutamine (can get in a health food store).

It worked! Pain was absolutely gone within 1/2 a day and I had had this pain and had ruled out appendicitis, tumor, polyps, etc.

BUTT! Always check with your doc first to rule out other serious causes.

Hope this helps!
 

LOWER right side is not where your gallbladder is or even where it may refer pain to. Seems strange that Doc would order hida scan of gallbladder for LOWER right sided pain.

Hmmmmm........
Trails
 

Probiotics, yes... you need to rid your body of the toxins. I don't even seem to be able to do it myself sometimes.

Really funny, when I'm feeling uncertain of my lyme, immune, health... I take BioAlign Immune Support (garlic and a bunch of other stuff). About an hour later I can hardly stand to be near myself. I'll sniff my "pits" at work and know there's a force out there that's at work kickin *** on those toxins. I have to laugh at myself.
 

Is the pain in one spot always or does it move around?

When did it start?

Is it constant or does it come and go? Does it occur before or after meals?

Does it peak? When?

Would you describe it as cramping, burning, dull, stabbing, or aching?

Is the pain relieved by food, or worse after eating? What about certain foods?

Is it associated with menstual period, stress, dietary indescretion, fatigue, nausea and vomiting, gas, fever, rectal bleeding, frequent urination, or vaginal discharge?

Does the pain increase while defecating or urinating?

Have you had a recent change in bowel habits?

Is there a noticeable swelling, distention, or protrusion in the area that is painful?

Appendix test #1: Rebound tenderness is a reliable sign of peritoneal inflammation that often accompanies appendicitis. To test for rebound tenderness, choose a site away from the painful area. If you are having RLQ pain, then do this test on the LLQ. Hold your hand 90 degrees or perpendicular, to the abdomen. Push down slowly and deeply; then lift up quickly. This makes structures that are indented by palpation rebound suddenly. A normal or negative response is no pain on release of pressure.

Appendix test #2: Iliopsoas muscle test. With the person supine (on back), lift the right leg straight up, flexing at the hip; then have someone push down over the lower part of the right thigh as the person tries to hold their leg up. When the test is negative, the person feels no change. When the iliopsoas muscle is inflamed (which occurs with an inflamed or perforamted appendix), pain is felt in the right lower quadrant.

Appendix test #3 - Obturator test. With the person supine (lying on back), have someone lift the right leg, flexing at the hip and 90 degrees at the knee. Have them hold the ankle and rotate the leg internally and externally. A negative or normal response is no pain.

Labs: WBC count will typically be elevated with acute appendicitis.

RLQ pain could represent the colon, ureteral colic, appendix, ovary, or referred pain from someplace else.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor and this information does not replace the consultation and examination of your physician.

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The ovarian pain stopped when I started lyme treatment. I did not get my period for 6 months or so after starting treatment.

Finally I got my period. Suddenly I was overcome with extreme LRQ pain. I could hardly stand up and got sweaty & nauseous. I had some codeine with me and took 1. I got in a taxi a went home fast.

I lay on the sofa in agony. I called a friend and had him look up warning signs for appendicitis etc. Bigmamma's instructions would have been handy then. I confirmed that it wasn't appendicitis and took more codeine. The pain was still extreme. I thought about going to the emergency room which is just a few blocks away. I thought I would pass out from the pain if I stood up so I lay absolutely still and focused on breathing.

I remembered reading some posts about women passing large clots and having bad pain. I thought maybe that was happening. Suddenly the pain stopped. I felt weak & shaky the rest of the day.

I posted my symptoms and felt reassured others had had a similar thing. Fortunately the pain never came back and since then my periods have been pain free. They were extraordinarily painful my whole life. I'm wondering if early lyme or some other infection caused me so many years of menstrual & ovarian problems.

I take probiotics & milk thistle twice a day without fail. I'm also on a strict anti-yeast diet.

Hoping your pain vanishes like mine did.
hatsnscarfs
 

Not only are clogged lymph nodes painful, this condition is also bad for everything your body needs to start healing:

To clear the lymph system to let out the toxins and to clear the system for the uptake of nutrients.

Would suggest a lymph drainage by a professional. Also do hydro colonics with a professional.

Killing the bacteria puts tons of neurotoxins of all sorts into circulation. It is our job to help these neurotoxins to find their way out of the body - www.neuraltherapy.com/articles.

I am absolutely certain that most often it is not the infection that is hurting us as much as the neurotoxins that are continuously circulating through the whole body, stressing all organs, only to keep doing it over and over. Learn about neurotoxin elimination. It is as, or even more important than killing the few remaining bacteria after months of antibiotis. It is without a doubt a major hurdle for our liver and gallbladder. Thick and black blood does not help toward feeling good. These do get tired of working overtime.

There are many ways to eliminate the dead proteins/neurotoxins, etc.

We don't run our cars with dirty oils for very long either.

Take care.
 

I think GiGi's info is very important to look at now and in the long term, but also you should rule out acute appendicitus.

IMO you should take care to rule out appendicitus, because being on abx will
dull the symptoms
of appendicitus.
(as per our LLMD, and as was the case with my son when he came down with appendicitus)

Pain, inflammation, and even the WBC count rise will be less, and the scans can be eqiovocal.

You would need a Doc who took all this into account to evaluate this, because it is still just as serious, but some of the indicators are effected by the abx in the rest of the system.

The abx will not stop the progression.

I would be careful to be sure that's not what's going on.

If you have a baseline WBC count for yourself (several previous tests taken consecutively, weekly or monthly..)
you may get some indication of there is a rise. (any rise at all, it won't be the rise they expect to se in someone not on abx)

Otherwise, they can't tell by these indicators alone.

Mo

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Thanks again.

 

If we have a trivalent anti-toxin for the nasty (similar)pathogen that causes botulism, why aren't we developing one for Bb/lyme?

More later. I have to wade thru some sodium, Vit C, research I did 2 days ago before I post. I read some interesting tidbits...esp. with regards to sodium.

Nostradamus...Rose Pill...yes perhaps = massive Vit C, but what pathogen were they fighting?! MUCH easier if it is an aerobic, non-spore forming one!!!

BTW...Mg pyrophosphate is an EMULSIFIER....hum...cholesterol...

There are other emulsifiers...

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