LymeNet Flash: Showing your "professional" background in your signature line please.

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Posted by bg (Member # 46416) on :

Just finished reading the flame about DocDave, and would like to ask folks with a medical & legal BACKGROUNDS to show what their expertise is in their "signature line"

After entering it in your profile, please use the X on "show signature" so ALL readers on this valuable educational, 24/7 support group message board can be aware of what your "credentials" are.

I'm NOT a dr. or have any legal degrees.

I'm a former secretary who typed many legal agreements but not the type you folks are thinking of....

bettyg, Iowa ... now for me to bring up my profile and add my own comments now as I am asking of you ....

Posted by bg (Member # 46416) on :

Hi! I didn't know for sure how to do this either, but chose PROFILE from the 1st page where you can pick medical, drs., other, etc.

It will bring up YOUR profile name used here and your password, click enter.

Now you can chose to show what you want in your signature line at the bottom. After proofreading it, chose submit or enter...forgot what term was used there.

Now it's updated, and you just need to X the box to SHOW SIGNATURE.

Thank you for helping ALL of us know what backgrounds we all have on the free advise we give daily here helping others!

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bettyg, Iowa .. I'm a former secretary who typed many legal agreements but not the type you folks are thinking of. Also been trying to get SSDI, disability insurance, benefits for 5 yrs. 8-05!

Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :

Respectfully, I think all persons on this board who keep an open mind to all possiblities treating this disease, are willing to learn and to share knowledge and experiences, and who have common sense...hold EQUAL weight/importance in my eyes. I don't care if you are a farmer or a pharmacist.

Everyone here holds a piece of the puzzle.

My license, RN, means diddly squat...I knew NOTHING about this very complex disease 4 years ago and I knew NOTHING about how nutrition is impacted.

Ancora Imparo = I am still learning.

Posted by duramater (Member # 6480) on :

Sorry but if everyone can post on this board, even the craziest stuff that doesn't have a shred of solid evidence and you are suggesting that people with actual science backgrounds justify THEIR knowledge, well, might as well rename this site mp.com.

FUGGEDABOUDIT.

Seems like the people with actual medical/science backgrounds are the ones getting some of the harshest criticisms for their posts lately. Gotta say it really stinks and my empathy for docdave as well as his justifiably hurt reaction knows no bounds...

Posted by Lymester (Member # 5848) on :

Agreed.

Posted by docdave130 on :

THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT EVERYBODY.
MAYBE I'LL COOL DOWN IN A COUPLE OF DAYS AND HELP THE GROUP IF THEY STILL WANT MY HELP.
I TAKE 2 HOURS OUT OF MY DAY TO HELP PEOPLE,
I WAS A HEALER FOR 23 YEARS AS A DENTIST, AND THIS IS MY THERAPY FOR BEING DISABLED.
I DO NOT KNOW ALL I AM NOT THE MIGHTY OZ OR PROFESS TO BE, BUT I WILL RESEARCH A SUBJECT PRIOR TO GIVING MY OPPINION IF I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. ALL OF MY INFORMATION IS FROM LEGITIMATE SOURCES AND ALWAYS WILL BE.
I DO UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE ARE DESPERATE FOR ANY HELP THEY CAN GET, AND I AM ACTUALLY DOING RESEARCH WITH A DOC AT HOPKINS INVOLVING GENE THERAPY.
I'M ONLY TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE FROM GOING THROUGH THE SEVERE DEVASTION THAT I'VE GONE THRU THE LAST 13 YEARS, LYME SYMPTOMS, DEPRESSION,MONETARY ISSUES, MARRITAL ISSUES, LOSS OF HAPPINESS, LOSS OF LOVE FOR LIFE, EVERTHING THAT HAPPENS BAD TO LYMIES I WANT TO HELP AND PREVENT. I'M 51 I WAS DISABLED AT 47, YES 47 AND GETTING SSDIS, WITH NO REAL FUTURE, AND THE PAST A DISTANT MEMORY.
I AM PRESENTLY WRITING 3 BOOKS AND A SCREENPLAY, AND HAVE DISTRIBUTED A CUTE CHILDRENS BOOK ABOUT LYME, THAT I WROTE WHILE SICK IN BED WITH LYME .
THE BOOK IS AVAILABLE FREE FROM ILADS OR YOUR LOCAL LYME GROUP. IT HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED BY ILADS TO THE LOCAL GROUPS.
I WILL EMAIL YOU A COPY IF YOU LIKE
[email protected]

Posted by yankee in black (Member # 4309) on :

Hello Betty,

For numerous reason--that is not a wise thing to do on a public board such as Lymenet

I have a much better suggestion to nay-sayers, and doubting Thomases:

Take what you read from the said professionals( or anyone for that matter)and read up on it for yourself!!!!

Don't count on anyone to give you the exact, correct information--just take the direction that they provide( or the lead)---and research it for yourself!!!

We are all adults, and should be capable of taking some responsibilty for our own educational needs with regards to lyme---brain fog, or not, no one can really do it for you!!

Education is power---and the best way is the hard way---pursueing the topic matter further---for yourself---once someone here has provided the lead for you.

I am in touch with a support group leader in a small rural area---she only has a seventh grade education----and I gotta tell ya--her thrist for knowledge is unbelievable---you give her something---and God Willing---she learns it like a pro!!

She's my hero--just imagine what she could have done with a formal education like Doc Dave's!!!!!!

You know who you are if you are reading this!!

Posted by janet thomas (Member # 7122) on :

Hey docdave- I have a child 13 yrs of age. I'd be greatly appreciative if you'd be kind enough to email me a copy. Thank you.

janet

[This message has been edited by janet thomas (edited 18 June 2005).]

Posted by Ann-OH (Member # 2020) on :

Sorry, Betty, but your fellow Iowan disagrees here. Anybody can call themselves anything here and nobody can disprove it. That goes with the territory called the internet.

Ann - OH
Grand Empress of Russia

Posted by ALSLYME (Member # 6721) on :

I have never been to college but i know more about lyme than most, of the many, college doctors that pushed me along from doctor to doctor. so my title would be an educated lyme victim! I dont think what you do has anything to do with what you know, and i think on this board we are all the same, we just want all of us to get better!

Posted by Kara Tyson (Member # 939) on :

Those of us who do have a science and/or medical background resist putting it down because then we could possibly be legally responsible with our advice.

An example: If you are 'off the clock' but in your professional garb (like going to the grocery store) you are then under certain obligations legally--just because of the uniform.

Posted by Biting Back (Member # 6018) on :

Sorry bettyg, but I tend to agree with everyone else on this issue.

Also wanted to tell docdave thank you for the support you've given me! I really, truly appreciate your feedback.

I always appreciate everyone's feedback, even when advice is conflicting. You're all awesome and I don't know what I'd do without each and every one of you.

Posted by laserred (Member # 6796) on :

Hats off to you, DocDave!

I know 'you know your stuff' about Dentistry, and I believe in you and totally respect anything you choose to share with someone who is asking for help! I was shocked at the way she attacked you!

But shake it off and take your rest, but you'll miss us, cuz I believe you are a truely compassionate person, that wants to help, and with that drive, I hope it brings you back to us!

I'm a ______ , with a ______ and also a______, Oh and have a ______ !

But that doesn't make me a person that can't learn about Lyme Disease, and share what I have learned with someone when they ask for help regarding Lyme Disease.

I share with them, as much as I know, if they
want to believe me or not...that's their choice. That wouldn't stop me from sharing with the next person that asked for my help.

So, I hope to see you back real soon, and all refreshed from your 'vacation'

TTFN

Sincerely,
~laserred~

To Ann - OH
"Grand Empress of Russia"
Loved it!!!! LOL
That was good!!!

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

Well said, cave!!! You rock!

And I agree with laser....the "Grand Empress of Russia" was way too cool! Made me jealous because I didn't think of it first!

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Lymetutu

Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :

After going to a dozen doctors and being told by All that I was FINE and getting comments
like its all in your head and You Look Fine--
I dont have much confidence in the medical
feild anymore.
I figured out what is wrong with me --
By my self. I wish the doctors would
have been more help--would have saved
me from 20 years of pain.

On my full page list of symptoms
-- that I showed the doctors--
was a complete DX for Lyme disease.
Only one symptom was missing-- the
Bullseye bruse--which I had seen
on the back of my leg 2 months eariler-

I have been being treated for 2 years
now for lyme with doxicycline--
the doxi has made me get SUPER Sun Burns--
For 2 years I could not go out side
or be in light of any type because
it would burn my skin to Crisp.
-- It has been Horiable--

--3 months ago I was reading some articals
on Photo Toxic---
In 2 places in the about 20 pages I read
it was mentioned that citrus fruit
MAY cause cause this Photo Toxic reaction
when taking doxi-- One of the people who
noticed this effect was the mother of a
little girl who was taking doxi and had
no bad effect until the little girl
ate a lime and then broke out in
burn blisters--The mom was not a doctor--
--Just a women who was Paying Attention--

So I payed attention to what this women
had noticed and cut out ALL Citrus from
my diet---Now 3 months later I can
-- Go into the light with No bad effect--
I owe a Huge part of the recovery to
people like this who where paying
attention and are able to share it
on sites like this----

My Eyes and Ears are open to All
who are willing to share--
--Dave that means You Too--Jay--

Posted by yankee in black (Member # 4309) on :

Ann in Ohio:

I now have a new title( I liked your sooo much)

YIB: Okay, I'm really Cher!

The beat goes on, and the beat goes on......Gyspies, Tramps and thieves.....oh, well...what-ever!

Posted by DR. Wiseass (Member # 6777) on :

DocDave - Hang in there, man! You're needed around here!

Now, I don't know if any of you have bothered to notice, but I ALWAYS sign with MY "credentials" - regardless of whether others want me to or not!

Blessings,

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DR. Wiseass - not a real doc - just a real wise ass.
www.twistoflyme.blogspot.com

Posted by lla2 (Member # 2364) on :

I agree, this is a support group...we shouldn't have to show our credentials on here to express our opinions..we know that none of us are llmds, so no matter how many of us are rns or mds we still are only expressing are OPINIONS on here and that's how it should be taken...

ridicuous to have to prove our education on a support group board...we should thank our lucky stars to everyone on here who gives us support when we need it ..period!

Lisa

Posted by Kara Tyson (Member # 939) on :

lla,

Actually there is (at least one) llmd on the board that keeps a low profile.

Posted by 3greatkids (Member # 3838) on :

Mr. Tick did not check out what degree I had before he changed my life forever.

Marnie is right,ALL of us have a piece to offer.Many wonderful people help each day,all offering help and advice in dealing with this maddness.

We're living it,that's all that matters.

Posted by valymemom (Member # 7076) on :

"This madness" describes so much.....it all.

Posted by Lymelighter (Member # 5310) on :

Rock ON, DOC! You rule Buddy! You are an inspiration to us all.

Glad the respite has done you some good. Don't forget about our 11:00 T time at the Polo Club, and Lunch at Taboo.

Posted by bg (Member # 46416) on :

Everyone, well said! I stepped on a raw nerve here; didn't I?

Kara, your comments were interesting about still being in your prof clothing, and the risks associated with that.

I stand corrected by each one of you. I was throwing out an idea only.

My apologies to all offended by my suggestion using the docdave flame as an example.

To my Russian friend, Ann; where in Iowa were you from?

bettyg, Iowa

Posted by Kara Tyson (Member # 939) on :

Betty,

I am not offended at all. It really is a good idea.

Posted by docdave130 on :

i tend to disagree with you guys on this post.
i think evrybody should contribute but the source of inforamtion is more important than the person giving it. many people have learned more than most docs about lyme disease on this group and for that i am very impressed.
you also disseminate the information for others to use without any envy or greed for who gets the credit, also good.
if the information is sound i don't care or want to know if it comes from a mother of 6 or a phd in genetics, however if it is a genetics issue then maybe they should say it in their post to give more credibilty to the post.but only in the one post not on you profile.
if somebody asks me a dental question i always tell my backround because it is relevent to the answer.
i didn't want to start a war just answer a question to keep somebody from getting lyme, and i was jumped all over because she didn't agree with my answer over her doctor.
then she should not have come to the board and asked for our help if she doesn't want to hear the truth. 20 other people gave her the same answer, then she called me a fool because i was helping in the board and not"do research"

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

No offense here!

Hey Jay....will your LLMD consider something other than the doxy? I think i would have died if I'd had to take that any longer than the month I took it.

Go for some Biaxin, maybe?

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Lymetutu

Posted by cootiegirl (Member # 3216) on :

I agree with DocDave - one should not bite the hand that feeds them. If you come here for information, then be grateful for what comes your way. You need to continue research on your own and sort things out and use what you can.

I have learned so much from people here and have little regard for what their educational background is. All I know is that they know their stuff and they are real and caring individuals that don't want people to suffer in the same way they have. Credentials are meaningless here....

One thing that I have learned over the years is that for some individuals the more education and degrees they receive, the dumber they become.....I have seen doctoral candidates who can spew all sorts of theory from textbooks, not have enough common sense to change their clothes or take a shower from day to day. Their common sense has gone by way of the dodo bird.

I also observed that a large number of them wore velcro closure sneakers and pondered on this....do they forget to tie their shoes or did they not learn how????
cootiegirl ~ princess of hasbro~

Posted by Foggy (Member # 1584) on :

Ditto:

Many appreciate the anonimity and yet candid nature that this forum offers. We all come from diverse backgrounds and have much to offer. We are also lucky to have adept individuals in remission(Doc Dave, GiGi, Bryan etc), who can support those who are still fighting this seemingly inextricable malaise.

That said, obligatory credential disclosure, while good intentioned, is one's perogative.

Posted by laserred (Member # 6796) on :

Oh my...do I dare??????

I heard someone say, "Oh, Go ahead, Go ahead. I dare ya",

Oh, what the heck ...

OK, here goes...

"Is this a "Merry-Go-Round?"

(Same ride, different horse this time...)

I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist

There must be something in my meds that makes me do stuff like that!! Or it's that other person that uses my screen name, now how the heck did they get my password???

I hate that when that happens, and that I just can't resist, I guess that's when we say...'the devil made me do it'.

[This message has been edited by laserred (edited 19 June 2005).]

Posted by Corinne E (Member # 4670) on :

One thing I have noticed for the last 10 months is that there are certain individuals (about 4 that I know of) on this site who do not have lyme, nor do they have relatives/friends, etc., who have lyme. Why are they posting here?

Perhaps Betty has noticed this too and just hasn't posted about it.

Corinne

Posted by Kara Tyson (Member # 939) on :

Iamanurse,

You need to back off.

You are still a newbie. Those of us who have been here awile, know when someone is a troll and when they are not.

As I have said for years, no wonder people call us crazy.

Betty offered a suggestion. You may not agree with it, but it was only a suggestion. She didnt demand it be done and even said please.

[This message has been edited by Kara Tyson (edited 19 June 2005).]

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

I don't think imanurse's statement was about anyone being a troll.

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Lymetutu

Posted by Kara Tyson (Member # 939) on :

Lymetoo,

I my mind a troll is someone here to do harm to us.

Posted by bg (Member # 46416) on :

iamnurse,

I see Judy's paranoia has rubbed off on you too since you apparently are a member of HER support group.

YOU were the one who asked me to be involved in Iowa's health dept. issue & wanted your private email address sent to them when I 1st contacted them. I'll go in now, and delete your name totally so I won't be sending you any unwanted emails.

I also advised you your comments on the bad Wisc. infectious dr. were sent "anonymously" along with my own comments w/my name for my comments...no big deal.

If you were a regular "primetime hospital health issues PAYING MEMBER" like I have been for the last 6 years, you would know they have feedback for EVERY health session they put on to the public.

No big deal about asking where someone is from; you've got nothing to hide, do you? LOL.

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