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Posted by johnnyb (Member # 7645) on :

Just want to get some thoughts from you folks, since I've seen posts here and heard from my LLMD that getting alkaline is important to help beat the buggies:

If you could only take one herb / supplement to increase your alkalinity, what would it be?

- JB

Posted by bpeck (Member # 3235) on :

Hydroxychloroquine (plaquenil).
There is no herb or supplement that'll do it.
It has to be a drug.
Barb

Posted by sizzled (Member # 1357) on :

Sodium bicarbonate (aka baking soda).

But, you can get dependent on it.Meaning, your body will adjust to the pH and actually NEED this to stay in the normal pH range.

Seen it happen in a person.

Posted by johnnyb (Member # 7645) on :

Barb,

My LLMD seems to think that it's better to try alkalizing foods and supplements rather than hydroxychloroquine.
I asked her about this, and she is a bit hesitant to try the drug on me, due to side effects.
She suggested more green foods in my diet as a start.

- JB

Posted by CLC (Member # 7112) on :

Chlorella.

Posted by Corgilla (Member # 4066) on :

Lemon

Fresh squeezed in purified water

Posted by DeniseS (Member # 7276) on :

I have been told that minerals help make the body more alkaline. I think that's what's keeping me yeast-free. KOW!

Good luck!

Posted by bugabooboo (Member # 7383) on :

Fresh squeezed lemon in pure H20?

I would love to believe this, but how does this make you more alkaline?

Posted by lymeHerx001 (Member # 6215) on :

The lemon juice always hurt my stomach.

It seemed to make it more acidic.

Right now Im doing the alka seltzer thing.
Dropped a couple into some bottled water.

Posted by chroniclymie on :

lemon juice is pure citric acid a weak acid but still an acid.vinegar is also acid acetic acid.
so basic materials have hydroxides on the end.
strongest base sodium hydroxide NaOH /lye used in drano to clean pipes not human pipes!!
weak edible bases are calcium hydroxide/tums
MgOH2 /mallox, sodium bicarbonatemixed with water/ baking soda or alka-seltzer,
Basically(pun intended) all antacids in the pharmacy are basic drugs. the zantac and others like it are not alkaline, but work on the stomach mechanism to stop production of acid, they will not change the ph of the body.

Posted by johnnyb (Member # 7645) on :

I have seen info about lemon water being alkalizing on the internet.

It doesn't even taste bad, if you are ok with unsweetened iced tea, for example.

- JB

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

Mangosteen juice...Xango only.

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Do not take anything I say as medical advice. I am not a doctor, but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express!
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Lymetutu

Posted by bpeck (Member # 3235) on :

The point is to alkalize the cell compartment so that the antibiotic can be effective at kill intracellular pathogens.

To my knowledge, none of the substances mentioned in the previous posts will accumulate in the cell and change the PH within the cell (if anyone's got data showing they do - then please post it).

This was DOnta (and another Doc- can't remember his name) that proposed this theory... and recent papers are proving them correct. (see the references - or do a search of the literature).
Barb

Reference 1 http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=353111
Reference 2 http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?AID=660&UID=

Posted by CapriceMom (Member # 4942) on :

Read "The pH Miracle" very good resource and easy to understand.
Add extral minerals. Magnesium if very good. Baking soda though in theory is good in the long run does not alkalize your system in a healthy way.
Drink lots of water, add a couple of tablespoons of Chlorophyll to every glass at first. As your system alkalizes just take a couple of times a day.
As important as what you add is what you don't do.
Meat, eggs, sugar, processed foods, fried foods,microwaved foods, leftover cooked vegetables, baked foods are all very acidic. Green veggies, fresh organic steamed or lightly water sauted are great. YOu need to eat fresh green veggies every day.
Also a great supplement is "Barley Life" a barley grass green drink. www.theaimcompanies.com (I don't sell the stuff I just use it and it is great. I can tell the difference on days I get busy and forget to drink it.)
Hope some of this helps.

Posted by lymeinhell (Member # 4622) on :

I use Lemon Oil from www.youngliving.com

One drop in your water tastes fantastic (not at all bitter like fresh squeezed lemon). Adding 10 drops to your water twice a day will bring you to ph neutral.

One bottle = 250 drops = $11.00

If anything, use it because it tastes great and it's a good kidney flush.

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Julie G.
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lymeinhell

Posted by chroniclymie on :

anything citrus lemon, orange, lime, are all ACID PERIOD YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE CHEMISTRY OF AN ACID. CITRIC ACID I THINK HAS A PH AROUND 5-6, SO IT IS A VERY WEAK ACID BUT ITS STILL AN ACID NOT A BASE.
ONLY BASES CAN MAKE THING ALKALINE, ALKALINE AND BASIC ARE THE SAME THING.
mixing equal strenghts of acids and bases produces salts and water
HCL+NAOH = NaCl + H20
citrus products cannot make the baody more alkaline it is impossible.

Posted by Lyddie on :

For GI acidity (not cellular), we are trying:

Alka-Seltzer Gold (no aspirin)

Pure Encapsulations Buffered Ascorbic Acid (has calcium, magnesium and potassium ascorbate)

Ecological formulas Tri-Salts (calcium, magnesium and potassium carbonate)

Posted by Corgilla (Member # 4066) on :

This is a great chart that I have hanging on my fridge:
http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/acidalkfoods.html

If you read this page, there is a blurb about lemons and citrus being alkalizing. It's not as cut and dry as you would think.
http://www.phsciences.com/about_ph/food_chart.asp

Best way to learn about this stuff is by doing a Google search on alkalizing foods or alkalizing supplements.

Corgilla

Posted by millymollymandy (Member # 7703) on :

I can recommend a book which is called 'Gut Reaction' by Gudrun Jonsson. It lists every food etc that promotes alkaline. It's a really good all round easy to understand book.

Posted by Ms. Myoclonus (Member # 6750) on :

Thanks Corgilla for the great links. I took the following quotes from the link she posted:
http://www.phsciences.com/about_ph/food_chart.asp

"That fact that a food or food product is acidic or alkaline in and of itself... doesn't mean it creates acid or alkalinity in the body. It depends on how it is chemically metabolized in the body."

It goes on to say:

"Even citrus fruits such as lemons, which we think of as being acidic, are alkaline-producing in the body. They are rich in organic salts, like citrates, which are being converted into bicarbonates."

Lemons are acidic, and can sometimes feel acidic in the stomach because they have not been metabolized yet. Yet, once they are metabolized, they have an alkalyzing effect on the body.

In addition to lemon water, I would recommend any of the greens such as chlorella or spirulina.

Take care,
Ms. Myo

Posted by tickedntx (Member # 5660) on :

I use Minute Maid Premium 100% Pure Lemon Juice from concentrate. There are no additives or preservatives, it is just the juice of lemons.

It is in the freezer section and you keep it in the freezer until you are ready to use it. Once in the fridge, you need to use it within 8 weeks. There is a place to put a date on the back.

I think Teitelbaum may recommend this, but I'm not sure; just remember it was somebody who I thought knew what they were talking about.

Posted by beachcomber (Member # 5320) on :

Fresh, organic lemon squeezed into pure water.

Also, Alka Seltzer Gold if you really are suffering. I wouldn't use it daily.

Green food powders also work but some can cause allergies. They don't agree with me. Got to find the best that works - an expensive trial and error.

Eat well. No sugar.

Posted by sizzled (Member # 1357) on :

Is this site valid?

"A list of Acid/Alkaline Forming Foods"
http://rense.com/l.mpicons/acidalka.htm

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Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :

Change the pH within the cell...3 enzymes that reduce intracellular H2O2 to H20 and O. H2O2 is acidic, but our cells aren't supposed to remain acidic.

Normally...enzymes are present in 1/400,000th of a second to break it down. Catalase is normally very abundant.

Besides catalase, there is Super Oxide Dismutase (SOD) and Glutathione Peroxidase.

And yes...I'm wondering...see general.

BTW...the Epsom salt baths WITH the baking soda...work. Use the skin, the largest organ, to absorb, bypassing the GI (to a degree).

chroniclymie...

The acid and alkaline content of food is determined by the way it is metabolized rather than actual food chemistry.

Even though the lemon is an acid fruit, it becomes alkaline as it is digested and assimilated. It is, in fact, our best aid toward proper alkaline balance. There is no danger of "too much acid."

By the way, many people misunderstand "acid food, alkaline food." This word does not refer to the pH of the food itself but to the pH of the food when absorbed by the body. For example, let's talk about lemons. The lemon itself is is quite acidic. However, it is called an alkaline food.

Celery juice and carrot juice are alkaline. Lemon juice is metabolized in the body to an alkaline ash and should be used in place of vinegar - which is a low grade alcohol. Once inside the body all fruit becomes alkaline if it is tree ripened and consumed correctly.

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