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Anyone have experience with this "protocol"?
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Marnie
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I wish I was a chemist...!
What is it about "ethyl"? In many drugs (abxs)...in acetylcholine and melatonin...
PKC inhibitors...protein kinase C inhibitors...some inhibit acetylcholine release. They "compete" with ATP and most Mg is bound to ATP. They cause cell death. Bb has a PKC inhibitor.
If we block angiotensin II with Mg doses or Benicar this looks to release NO (research ethyl and NO - nitric oxide) which releases acetylcholine.
Acetylcholine is needed for REM sleep...when we MAKE proteins...NREM sleep needs melatonin...NREM must precede REM...
Are you a chemist? Know one? Yo...pq...calling for help....
Theoretically...chemically...will it work?
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This would probably lower your homocysteine level and that's about all. Would probably increase energy level as well, but in my opinion would have no effect on Lyme or other coinfections.
Research methylation which is one of the detox pathways. Great Smokies does a genetic test for defects in this pathway. Hubby has this genetic defect.
Uses Sam-e, high dose folinic acid (a form of folic acid) and B12 injections to overcome genetic defect. Tried other nutritional combos, but this works best for him.
Bea Seibert
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Heard it described on another board as some kind of protocol (or maybe part of protocol) recommended by some LLMD (back east i think).
My impression was that by breaking a significant portion of the toxin cycle the body would begin to create an inhospitable enviroment for BB, which in turn amplified other treatments including ABX.
I've heard of (and followed) this strategy for Candida toxins with Molybdenum.
What do you think chemically about the end result biolgically of such a supplement combination?
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while i haven't looked deeply into glycine(except many moons ago),my guess that the dimethylglycine would be functioning in part as a methyl group( -CH3) donor. 'di-' = two, methyl = CH3 thusly, and hence two methyl groups of atoms are given up to something. one function of the B12 may have a similar function as mentioned above with the dimethyl glycine,either in donating, accepting, or switching atom(s) from one part of a molecule to another part of the same molecule, or other molecules.
I believe glycine, itself, is used by the body for mineral transport from the gut. However, certain infectious organisms also use this amino acid, and may be fueled by this. i don't know if this would be the case with the 2 methyl groups hooked up to it.
the molybdenum, with its many oxidation states, has a role in liver detox.
gotta keep this short, as i'm too Sx-o-matic, right now.
the site for townsend letter for doctors and patients, garynull.com, thorne.com, and lef.org should have some real interesting information on dimethylglycine, and molybdenum.
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Quercetin (Flavonoid): Quercetin-3-O-galactoside, -3-O-glucoside, -3-0-rutinoside; Via a specific pathway in the human body, these components contribute to the regulation of immune modulation and stimulation, support the circulatory system and maximize the efficiency of heart function.
Myricetin (Flavonoid): Myricetin-OH; Same properties and actions as Quercetin.
Gallic acid derivates: Cholic acid, deoxycholic acid and chenodeoxycholic acid; Aid in emulsification of fat by supporting the efficacy of lipases, immunestimulative action aids chronic conditions.
Amino Acids
Arginine:(S)-2-amino-5-guanidinopentane acid; Essential in childhood, plays an important role in the uric acid cycle, liver-protective, turns into the homologue of lysine which is essential to mitochondrial function and to the production of creatine and putrescine, the pre-stage of spermine and spermidine which stabilize the DNA structure in human spermatozoa.
Threonine:(2S,3R)-2-amino-3-hydroxybutane acid; Essential human nutrient; metabolizes to ketobutyrate and glycine; regulates cholesterol; protein element.
Glutamine:(S)-2-amino-glutaric acid; Donator of amino groups; detoxifying end product of ammonia metabolism; source of gamma amino-butyrate (neurotransmitter); acceptor molecule of ammonia detoxification.
Alanine:(S)-2-amino acid; Key function as most important glucogenic amino acid, it is essential to catalyze and block harmful enzymes.
Cysteine:(R9)-2-amino-3-mercaptopropionic acid; Causes acid urine, source of sulfate; high concentration in the brain; essential for fetus and premature children.
Serine:(S9)-2-amino-3-hydroxypropionic acid; Glycoproteins; component of immune globulins (antibodies).
Histidine:(S)-2-amino-3-imidazol-4-yl-propan acid; Metabolizes to histamine.
Proteases:Enzymes that split proteins and peptides, protein kinases that block protein synthesis.
Lipopolysaccharides:Originate from biosynthesis of polysaccharides which are bound to lipids; Retinol has similar characteristics.
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"The strategy of adding Methyl Donors and/or Methyl-B12 is based on Japanese research that Methyl-B12 increases CD8 cytotoxic lymphocyte activity (CTL's) and Natural Killer cell function. An overwhelming amount of published scientific research indicates that CD8 CTL's can destroy the virus infected cells. Methyl B12 should be one on the must do list of everyone with chronic immune dysfunction whether it is caused by HIV, HHV-6 or other conditions like CFIDS, Lyme, cancer, candidiasis and any condition where body temperature is below normal and infections persist"
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