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Posted by mtgebrkr (Member # 7631) on :
 
Since Bart is a bacterial infection vs. a chete, does anyone have any ideas how quickly it replicates, as you cant kill a bacteria unless it is multiplying is my understanding. Is it a deep tissue infection?

I had pain in my ribs like there was an abcess and pain all over basically especially the discs in my back, bones above my eyes, and even my nose! Eye pain too. I looked on-line and not much about the tick borne Bart obviously, only Qunitana and Henslae form.
 
Posted by BOEJR (Member # 1734) on :
 
Hi Donna,

I do not know to tell you how long it takes to replicate. However I can tell you that Bart does have terrible neurologic symptoms including depression, rage disorder and anxiety.

I think that you are in New Jersey, and if you are we have alot of bartonella here. You don't need to go into the woods to get it either.

I read a study somewhere that the deer mice that carry the ticks are in higher concentration in patchy areas such as the front yard that most of use spent our time clearing of weeds and falling leaves... [bonk]

I am in New Jersey and I am doing great, so far , knock wood. My LLMD treated us, My husband, with low dose antibiotics. And I complimented it with Hyperbaric Oxygen. I have my own chamber and try to promote HBOT as much as I can.

http://community.nursingspectrum.com/MagazineArticles/article.cfm?AID=13689

I believe in the therapy because it is so none toxic contrary to popular belief. The therapy is used for many off label medical problems. And it has been recently been approved for certain medical conditions.

If you every consider the therapy or would like more information on it let me know. The best thing about it is that it facilitates the crossing of the BBB. So your antibiotics will be able to penetrate your brain...

Please do not consider harming yourself. God Loves You!

Best Regards,

Julia
 
Posted by caat (Member # 2321) on :
 
Can't tell you how long it takes to replicate, but after comparing ID manuals and reports & what little we could find on LLMD tips my LLMD and I decided to treat me with rifampin and zith for 3 months. I have kept doxy as well as I have a tendency to relapse into menengitis off of doxy.

That sounded like a good time period to me as I have heart and bone involvement as well. Bone involvement takes longer to treat. ID manuals recommended 2 months for a certain species of bart with heart involvement. We added another month for a comprimized immune system, and that's how we came up with that time span.

Of course it depends on what species you have & what it's susceptable to and how susceptable it is... but that was our best idea *if* what I have is susceptable to it. I'm personally negative on bart henslea, so who knows?

There are several species they can't test for, and some species may cross react with some of the henslea tests, and the bart tests just aren't very good to begin with. So- it's hard to tell. Each bart species has it's own slightly different antibiotic susceptabilities.
 
Posted by caat (Member # 2321) on :
 
If you have high white blood cell counts you might want to be tested for staph and strep as well. They can also effect the bones, but generally you have a high wbc count with those.
 


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