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Posted by believingisseeing (Member # 8151) on :
 
So, I can't use it.
BUT THAT'S JUST ME!
If it works for you, I would keep using it (I have S. Buhner's book, "Healing Lyme").
I just know I've made more progress in the past 5 months using herbals and colloidal silver, with some doxy a couple times a month, than I did with just doxy alone for 2 yrs.
Rock on natural treatments.
Just have to try rife yet...just can't afford it right now though.
Peace.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
I bought a Rife machine for $440. Beats all the thousands I've spent on meds over the years!
 
Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :
 
in the context of all the things you were taking at the time,consider:

1. interaction of effects of that which you were taking. this would confound attribution of effect(s) to a singular item,at the least.

2. certain, if not all tetracyclines bind minerals such as Fe, Ca, Mg.,etc., and, for which reason, conventional lit. warns against the concurrent intake of minerals with tets., or taking them too close in time with the tets.
the binding would render the tets. useless.

speculatively, and without supporting evidence, i would add that one or more metabolites would bind minerals, as well.

since silver is a mineral, it would seem that the tets. would bind the silver, and have two possible effects, the first binding doxy, and rendering it useless,or; secondly, that the doxy bound the silver, and had at least a doubling effect in killing Bb. If the killing effect of the presumed binding of the doxy to the tet. is/was real, then the killing effect more likely was multiplicative, or exponential, rather than being doubled.

3. Heart stuff may be related to what you took week(s) before, not necessarily the andrographis P., although this is NOT to deny any contribution
to your heart Sx, by the androg.P..

At least in the first-time infected, cardiac 'happenings' often start to occur, either approx. 4-6 weeks, AFTER starting abx ther, or 4-6 weeks AFTER finishing a course of abx. individual differences in response, and myriad other factors(bacterial load,multiple infections,etc.) granted.

check Dr. Burrascano's 1998 Treatment Guidelines for mention of heart stuff manifesting week(s), AFTER, starting or finishing abx.

check lyme lit. on "left anterior fasicular block"
and "heart blocks + lyme" in general. first, second, and third degree heart block.
"cardiac conduction disorders + lyme(borreliosis,etc.).


4. Certain herbs such as, for example, hawthorn, effect heart perfomance.

if one has a conduction disorder due to lyme, AND, one takes something that either stimulates the heart, such that, an increased conduction of signals to the heart muscle are sent to increase/decrease certain kinds of performance in one or more parts of the heart,AND, one has a conduction block, then, theoretically, this would produce symptoms and/or signs that one picks up on.

just a start to stimulate some thinking about attributing manifestation(s) of lyme and/or other TBDSs to a singular item, if one is taking several or many things.

again, this is NOT to deny your perception/sensations/experience,and attribution to androgr.p.,or anything else, for that matter, but to consider what possible other causes there may be.

i tried androg.p once, at low dose, and if it did anything, i didn't notice it, as i was too sick at the time to notice almost anything; e.g., that the pen i was searching for, was in my ear, pocket, or wherever it was.
 


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