Hey, I have an idea. I was in my llmd's and she said the average temp of lyme pts is 97 degrees.
Mine is 96, what is yours? Take it now!!! Then take the temp on a non lymie...98.6.
So what if docs who have a patient with symptoms of lyme and a low temp be diagnosed w/lyme.
What other infection drops the body temp????Most raises it!!!
(Think I can get a patent?)
Posted by cantgiveupyet (Member # 8165) on :
hahah....good luck with the patent.
Ive questioned 3 ducks about my low temp...all said well its in normal range. 96 one ER nurse blamed it on the cold temp outside.
I have my whole medical file since i got so sick in august my temp and weight both dropped with each appt.
My LLMD however said he would make note of it.
ive taken my temp at 94...given to a normie...and it was 98.5 ....
i will take mine later today and report back.
Posted by believe3 (Member # 6216) on :
yup my normal temp is 97...but It has always been. Even when i was a kid.
Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
When I am not having my "fever & chills" - which I think know is a symptom of babs for which I am now in treatment .
My average temp is 97.
Posted by dontlikeliver (Member # 4749) on :
I think lots of things drop body temp, low thyroid is one.
Posted by karatelady (Member # 7854) on :
I remember asking my pain specialist of 6 years why my body temperature was between 96 and 97 degrees.
She said it could be a number of reasons like thyroid (but mine was ok she said although I found out later my reverse t-3 wasn't ok) or it could be from stress.
She didn't know anything about testing for viruses (her reasoning was that everyone has some viruses) or that an elevated virus is different from having the virus in your system.
So you may have something there. It probably won't get you anywhere but I'm sure its virus/bacteria related.
It would be interesting to see if people with just viruses and not lyme have lower body temps. I have a friend who fits that description so I'll ask her.
Sandy
Posted by SForsgren (Member # 7686) on :
I agree that low temp is NOT diagnostic of LD. Many other issues can cause temperature changes. Thyroid being a main culprit.
Posted by Lymied (Member # 6704) on :
I was always 98.6 give or take a fraction of a degree...but normally right on 98.6.
Got sick in May 2004 and had a couple fever spikes then boom...96 degrees...got treatment for babesia - went up to 97.
Now it hovers between 97.3 to 98.3 - but rarely 98.6. Sometimes goes above to 99.3 when I am feeling really crummy.
I know that this is lyme related...could be thyroid too but that is because lyme loves the hypothalmus which then cascades down to the thyroid.
Crazy stuff!
Posted by robi (Member # 5547) on :
I take my temp, but never really know what to think about the reading. The digital termometer beeps and my temp is around 97.3 usually.
If I leave it in for 3 or 4 minutes ater the beep then the reading raises to around 98. Which is accurate?
I have 2 thermometers and they both rac the same.
I have waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too much time on my hands, robi
Posted by valymemom (Member # 7076) on :
One of the things our llmd had my son and I do was take our temperature for three weeks (three times daily). Never normal. Early morning it could be 95.6 and then it would raise some.
We also were told to bring in some temp readings for our first appointment.
Indication from my llmd is that so many with lyme have these temps.
The few times my son was at his PCP in the afternoon (before treatment) and had his temp taken and it was 97.....she would make up reasons for this.
Now that we are being treated for months I don't know what our temps are. Anyone still take their temp?
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
Lyme Disease seems to mess up the HPA axis (hypothalmus, pituitary, and adrenal glands).
Lyme often causes thyroid problems.
Subnormal body temperature is a symptom of low thyroid.
Yeah, I think there's a connection between Lyme and low temp.
Carol
Posted by Jillybean (Member # 8071) on :
Right now my temp is 96.2. It goes from 94 to 97, but usually stays in the 96 range. My blood pressure is also low, 95/60. Jill
Posted by klutzo (Member # 5701) on :
My temp is 96 in the am and 97.6 in the PM. However, at doctor's offices,it is almost always 99! Must be white coat syndrome, lol.
My understanding, from reading Dr. K, is that Lyme likes it cold, and will lower your temp by blocking your thyroid receptors, which is why your thyroid tests may look normal, even though taking something for thyroid may help you a lot. I know I could not function without my low dose of Armour Thyroid.
Klutzo
Posted by karatelady (Member # 7854) on :
I just talked to my friend who had viruses but no lyme and she said her body temp has always been normal.
Sandy
Posted by cmichaelo (Member # 5873) on :
I've had low body temp (BT) for years. Even before I was diagnosed wiht LD. I always wondered why, but was never really concerned about it.
But I am now!!
A low BT is a sign that something is wrong. Period!
While I was most sick from LD, I had temps ranging from 93 to 96. Always lowest in the morning and just before bedtime.
In my LD diary, I can see that there is a correlation between bad days and low temps.
Now I'm relatively OK. BT is between 97.3 and 98+. 97.3 in the morning and late at night. 98+ during the day.
But I still have LD. I can tell.
What else besides thyroid and Lyme cause low BT? Someone mentioned stress, but that could just be because stress promotes good conditions for some diseases like LD?
Cancer, right? Isn't cancer also known as the "cold" disease?
I'm convinced that if you wanna rid your body of Lyme, do everything in your power to raise your BT: - wear warm clothes, thick socks - take frequent saunas, hot baths - detoxify! (chlorella, dmsa) - swedish massage - check and fix your hormone levels - exercise - think positive, don't be the disease, don't accept that LD is taking over your body, beat it, think it, tell it to the bugs!
Michael
Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :
Hi all My temp has been as low as 93-- After starting babs treatment my temp has mostly stablized at 96-97 --Jay--
Posted by trails (Member # 1620) on :
Robi- I use a mercury thermometer. I collected a few of them before they became obsolete.
They are really the only accurate reading I can get. I leave it in there for 5 minutes.
I think the ear ones are ALWAYS wrong and the digital tongue ones are MOSTLY wrong. I sometimes bring mine to a duck visit. And I only check it with mine if their's is off by 2 or more degrees.
Most docs and nurses actually have agreed that the digitals dont measure correctly.
Can you buy a mercury one?
I dont think they are bad for you as long as you dont break them!
Posted by sunnygirl (Member # 8339) on :
Low body temperature. Yes!
I seem to stay around 95-96. Was wondering if there was a connection between low temperatures and lyme.
Also I've noticed my skin is mottled, patchy and cold. I was tested at the FFC for coagulation and readings were normal!
It must be the bacteria because I'm on T3 and hormone replacement.
Posted by cmichaelo (Member # 5873) on :
quote:Originally posted by trails: They are really the only accurate reading I can get. I leave it in there for 5 minutes.
I think the ear ones are ALWAYS wrong and the digital tongue ones are MOSTLY wrong. I sometimes bring mine to a duck visit. And I only check it with mine if their's is off by 2 or more degrees.
Most docs and nurses actually have agreed that the digitals dont measure correctly.
I think digitals are just fine. I routinely cross-check with mercury, and the digital is in total agreement.
But you have to be careful with the digitals. They move up and down in temp fast. This cause them to respond to slight mechanical movements of the probe in the mouth.
Getting it right with the digitals is all up to the "patient". And most patients don't understand this and nobody likes the thermometer under their tongue. Thus, most patients can't help but playing with the thermometer and move it around under the tongue. And that causes inaccurate readings.
The probe needs to as far back under the tongue as possible. Keep it steady there and press the tongue down on it. It'll be slightly uncomfortable...but it'll be over in 60sec.
Secondly, the probe on the digitals is straigt and narrow while the it's bulb-like and thick on mercurys. This makes the mercury a more natural and comfortable fit under the tongue.
Stick either of the two thermometers in your rear, and I would think they should come out with the same readings, no?