Has anyone heard of this? I met an alternative practioner the other day and she recommends taking nattokinase, serapeptase for 5 days then adding olive leaf extract, oil of oregano or miracule water to kill lyme.
Miracule water runs $169.00 and one bottle is silver the other copper.
Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :
Over-all,except for the 'miracule water' which i never heard of, it looks like an intelligent approach.
the idea here seems to be that the enzymes attack the outer surface membrane, the oil of oreg. i don't know the function of, and teh silver and copper in the mircule water move in for the kill.
i'd like to double check the spelling of the name of this water. is it spelled 'Miracule' or 'Miracle'? just want to make sure.
What is the patent number on the bottle, if any?
Would you kindly list all of the ingredients, inclu. inactive ingredeints?
back later in a ffew minutes for some more questions/comments.
[ 14. June 2006, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: pq ]
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
nattokinase, serapeptase for 5 days then adding olive leaf extract, oil of oregano
Those are all good....but that's very expensive "water!"
Posted by tickalert (Member # 7033) on :
The approach does seem good however the cost of the water is expensive I agree. Spelling is correct...Miracule Water. Here's the info www.miraculewater.net/Ormus.htm.
I haven't done any research yet on this product but was hoping others on the board had information on it.
Posted by tickalert (Member # 7033) on :
Up anyone else?
Posted by elle (Member # 7721) on :
The nattokinase is an enzyme that is good for thinning blood and helps with coagulation issues. These are sometimes a problem in persons with lyme, not always - I have thin blood. The serapeptase is also an enzyme.
Oil of oregano and olive leaf extract are some of my favorites. They have very good anti-bacterial, anti-viral qualities. The oregano oil is good also a good anti-fungal.
The silver and gold bottles contain primarily water and collodial silver & copper. These would be the alternative "abx" in the combination. Not sure what their definition of ORME would be in their product - one website said it was life energy. There are several webpages with a broad array of opinions of this company's products.
You may want to research collodial silver and copper before making your decision. Also you should make sure you don't have blood issues that would conflict with the enzymes.
elle
Posted by tickalert (Member # 7033) on :
Thank you Elle. What do you mean by blood issues? My LLMD tested me for coagulation and he had me doing Heparin which I reacted to and couldn't take.
Posted by elle (Member # 7721) on :
Many lyme patients have coagulation issues with their blood, I am the opposite and I know a few others that are also.
Since you know you do then the nattokinase would probably not be a problem.
Rechts-Regulat is the same type of product but is more effective and is veg based rather than soy based (for those with thyroid issues). You can do a search here on lymenet and info is available.
I don't know that the 2nd enzyme would be necessary with the Rechts but I'm not sure since I don't have coagulation issues.
Maybe someone that uses the Rechts will jump in and respond.